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Old 09-25-2007, 05:20 PM
diebitter diebitter is offline
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Default Re: Please teach me the ways of the shortstacker

I have absolutely no idea how aim works.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:05 PM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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Default Re: Please teach me the ways of the shortstacker

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I have absolutely no idea how aim works.

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Ditto, or someone has already stolen my email address as an aim name.


AOL and AIM were like the worst things you could install on your computer when I was in college. infinity annoying spyware,desktop icons..... Like trying to get rid of herpes uninstalling all that stuff.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Please teach me the ways of the shortstacker

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I have absolutely no idea how aim works.

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Ditto, or someone has already stolen my email address as an aim name.


AOL and AIM were like the worst things you could install on your computer when I was in college. infinity annoying spyware,desktop icons..... Like trying to get rid of herpes uninstalling all that stuff.

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Same here Id like to be involved in the chat, what software do you use?
Id like the non-herpes version though.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: Please teach me the ways of the shortstacker

AIM has some advertising but it's not horrible.

If you want to go with something clean, go with Trillian:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillia...ging_client%29

It doesn't quite have all the features of AIM, but for basic chat functions it should be fine.

It's all really simple to use.
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:20 PM
br.bm br.bm is offline
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Default Re: Please teach me the ways of the shortstacker

I like 25 BB for shortstacking.
Assume you always have your full 25BB.
You will see 150 Hands until you loose 25BB in Blinds.
You'll get:
AA or KK once in this time.
AK 3 times. One of those will flop TPTK.
AQ 3 times.

So you have one AA/KK, one hit w/ AK and one w/ AQ.
Well ... now it's getting tricky. How often do you get all in preflop w/ AA/KK and postflop w/ Toppair hands?

Getting all in w/ AA or KK everytime is not enough because you only win about 80% of the time. So you need to win w/ the toppair hands too.

Beware of getting all in preflop w/ QQ in smallstake games. If villians range is {AA, KK, AK, AQ, JJ} you are a coinflip against him. If his range doesn't include JJ and AQ you'll loose in the long run.

I don't like SSS (short stack strategy) though. I tryed it for ~10k hands and it's no fun. And being a good 100BB player is more +EV. Being a good shortstacker is good for tournaments and against other shortstackers. Although most shortstack players are only donks who don't want to loose too much money at once.
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:55 PM
toymach776 toymach776 is offline
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Default Re: Please teach me the ways of the shortstacker

NLTAP has a short but good discussion of short stack play.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: Please teach me the ways of the shortstacker

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AIM has some advertising but it's not horrible.

If you want to go with something clean, go with Trillian:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillia...ging_client%29

It doesn't quite have all the features of AIM, but for basic chat functions it should be fine.

It's all really simple to use.

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You can also try Pidgin (ex GAIM). This is a multi protocl chat client (works with MSN, ICQ, Yahoo etc etc).

Plus : it's an open source program.

Google for Pidgin
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