Does AA want multiple callers of AI, or just one?

[whymelord]

In this thread,

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12784420

I got flamed for making comment player was correct. Was I wrong?

MTT, final table. Player A has KK, makes bet, Player B has AA, goes all-in, player C has AA goes all-in. Does player B want a call or a fold from Player A?

[brad2002tj]

Obv +ev for player b if player a calls.

[whymelord]

If I stated it differently:

Player A makes large bet, Player B has AA, goes all-in, player C goes all in. Still want a call from A?

Maybe this is why I win so few MTTs......

[gtpitch]

Whenever you have AA and have all your chips in the middle you want calls. You have the single best preflop hand in holdem and any other hand will have to suckout in order to win. Granted this doesn't always mean that you will win but it is def +EV.

[brad2002tj]

If you have AA, you want the whole table to call your all-in pre-flop. You will get sucked out more often, but you will also have even better odds of building a 9x stack.

Even all in against 5 random hands, AA will take the whole pot more than 1/2 the time. Obv +ev and you should be happy to get more money in teh pot.

[EroTheMad]

658,008 games

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.781% 32.77% 00.02% 215598 105.83 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 15.678% 15.02% 00.66% 98818 4343.33 { 7h6h }
Hand 2: 13.570% 13.55% 00.02% 89186 105.83 { KsQs }
Hand 3: 10.155% 10.14% 00.02% 66714 105.83 { 3c3h }
Hand 4: 15.615% 15.60% 00.02% 102640 105.83 { JcJd }
Hand 5: 12.201% 11.54% 00.66% 75942 4343.33 { 6d5d }




I definitely want 5 callers... But when someone holds other Aces i really don't want.

501,942 games

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 11.346% 01.47% 09.88% 7366 49584.79 { AdAs }
Hand 1: 11.565% 01.69% 09.88% 8463 49584.79 { AcAh }
Hand 2: 15.744% 15.73% 00.01% 78953 73.29 { KsQs }
Hand 3: 12.734% 12.72% 00.01% 63842 73.29 { 3c3h }
Hand 4: 18.126% 18.11% 00.01% 90908 73.29 { JcJd }
Hand 5: 16.256% 15.45% 00.80% 77557 4036.79 { 7h6h }
Hand 6: 14.230% 13.43% 00.80% 67390 4036.79 { 6d5d }

And for your question at final table actually i don't really care if other AA or KK calls.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.785% 02.04% 37.75% 27939 517415.67 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 39.785% 02.04% 37.75% 27939 517415.67 { AcAs }
Hand 2: 20.430% 20.29% 00.14% 278116 1928.67 { KcKh }

~%77 of the time i'm not losing and this comes to the question if you're at the final table, you're holding AdKd and someone covered you moved all in with AcQs and showed his hand to you. Do you call?

[whymelord]

I guess this is strikes at the heart of why I'm just a break even player. I see the ROR and get scared. I would have wanted only one caller so I could double up and advance one position. Gotta start thinking bigger I guess.

Thanks all!

[DaHorseShu]

Break even I wish I knew what that was