Pokerstars 3+R... completely lost with KK

[Paul McSwizzle]

So the table actually hadn't really been out of line before this hand...

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PokerStars Game #13550660751: Tournament #68180150, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/11/29 - 20:52:08 (ET)
Table '68180150 203' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Zset (3900 in chips)
Seat 2: ducebuster (1615 in chips)
Seat 3: KISSMYPJS (1530 in chips)
Seat 4: petshuky (1050 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: reggi906 (2230 in chips)
Seat 6: Joubi21 (6375 in chips)
Seat 7: cecaro11 (1660 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: HERO (3345 in chips)
Seat 9: dcccchef (5295 in chips)
reggi906: posts small blind 50
Joubi21: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
cecaro11: folds
HERO: raises 200 to 300
<font color="blue"> I guess I could have raised more, but this had been my standard, and I wanted one or two callers </font>
dcccchef: calls 300
Zset: calls 300
ducebuster: calls 300
KISSMYPJS: calls 300
petshuky: folds
reggi906: folds
Joubi21: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Joubi21: checks
HERO: bets 900
<font color="blue"> Do I bet a lot more here, like closer to pot? I'm obviously thinking "No ace... no ace," but then I don't want to COMPLETELY give up on the hand </font>
dcccchef: calls 900
Zset: calls 900
ducebuster: folds
KISSMYPJS: folds
Joubi21: folds
*** TURN *** [A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
HERO: checks
<font color="blue"> ??? </font>
dcccchef: checks
Zset: checks
*** RIVER *** [A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
HERO: checks
dcccchef: checks
Zset: bets 1200
HERO: folds
dcccchef: folds
Zset collected 4550 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4550 | Rake 0
Board [Ad 8s 5d Jd 4h]
Seat 1: Zset collected (4550)
Seat 2: ducebuster folded on the Flop
Seat 3: KISSMYPJS folded on the Flop
Seat 4: petshuky (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: reggi906 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Joubi21 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: cecaro11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: HERO folded on the River
Seat 9: dcccchef folded on the River

[Paul McSwizzle]

I don't think I was clear enough about the fact that a raise to 300 had previously been getting most of the table to fold.

[Pokerfarian]

Preflop is fine but if it's still in rebuy period I'd raise more.
I'd just c/f flop when up against that many players.

[Wish]

300 had been getting a bunch of folds early in a $3 rebuy? How strange. Most of the time in one of those, you could just open-shove preflop and get a call or two. In a rebuy like this, I'd check/fold the flop. If you'd gotten one or two callers there's a chance that none of them has an ace. With 5 callers, somebody's got the ace, and they're never, never, never folding it. If you're going to bet, half-pot is fine. It accomplishes everything that a pot-sized bet would. You'll either fold out everybody (unlikely, but possible), or you'll get looked up by somebody with an ace (and quite possibly somebody with something ridiculous). As played, absolutely fold the river. I think there's zero chance you're good any more. Somebody's got an ace, and the 4 just filled a couple of straight draws as well.

[Jon_AK]

during rebuy period... isn't this a preflop shove? I'm not 3+R player buuuuuuuut.... yeah preflop all in to MAYBE eliminate the A-rag people and get only 1 or maybe 2 ppl in the pot w/ u

[hamnegger]

there is almost zero chance multiway during rebuy kk is good. betting here is pissing into a heavy heavy wind. C/FOLD

[dant734]

Yea not to jock everyone else but when im in a 3.30 i'd say 5 times is the standard. You can push and get called by just about anything you can think of but either way you were gonna be screwed because A anything is calling you in these. For future reference though theres always players like me there just trying to get some chips with anything suited and gapping in these things.

[brad2002tj]

Play same preflop, check fold flop oop. Against 1 or possibly 2 opponents I might bet, but not 5.

[gtpitch]

Still in rebuy period? Shove preflop and click "auto rebuy"