$10 MTT proper to limp button while shorttacked?

simple1248 · #1 10-11-2007, 03:56 AM

Pretty loose table.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG+1 (t5110)
MP1 (t2260)
MP2 (t1595)
Hero (t1145)
CO (t2335)
Button (t1450)
SB (t990)
BB (t2041)
UTG (t16345)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q

, J

.
UTG calls t100, UTG+1 calls t100, [color=#666666]2 folds, Hero calls t100, [color=#666666]2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t500) 9

, A

, 9

[color=#0000FF](5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG+1 bets t200, Hero folds, SB folds, BB calls t200, UTG folds.

Turn: (t900) 3

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG+1 bets t300, BB calls t300.

River: (t1500) 7

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
[color=#CC3333]BB bets t600, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: t1500

black666 · #2 10-11-2007, 04:56 AM

Limping with 11xBB is bad. You are looking for a spot to stick it in. Either open-shove first or shove to another raise/limp.

With 2 players already in the pot and 4 still to go I would just fold this.

willperkins · #3 10-11-2007, 06:57 AM

I do not like this call at all. Your M=7.6. You are pretty much looking for a hand that you can be the first to act and shove.

JammyDodga · #4 10-11-2007, 07:03 AM

I knew what I was going to say before I even read the thread.

No, never limp with a stack this short, ever, especially not with QJ.

levAA · #5 10-11-2007, 08:59 AM

no - shove

Soulman · #6 10-11-2007, 09:09 AM

Speed fold

Dunkman · #7 10-11-2007, 11:48 AM

Hmm I see everyone saying fold but I would like turbo-shove this, although I'm wondering if I'm right about that now. Why would you guys not shove? It's like, 2 face cards and we don't have any chippies.

CobraGoat · #8 10-11-2007, 12:16 PM

Shove or fold depending on limpers. LImping is bad for a lot of reasons, another being that one the blinds seeing a good opportunity will shove here A LOT.

bluesbassman · #9 10-11-2007, 12:45 PM

Fold > Shove >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t; Limp

sapsuckah · #10 10-11-2007, 01:05 PM

I like the concept of shoving this over limpers, but I wouldn't do it in this case. The limpers are UTG and UTG+1, UTG has a huge stack, and UTG+1 is also 4x deeper than you. I'd say you have almost no FE here.

Fold.