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Old 07-11-2007, 05:35 PM
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Chapter and verse, please.

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From the book of broken promises.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:58 PM
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Chapter and verse, please.

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From the book of broken promises.

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Zing. NotReady doesn't consciously realize that he's actually trying to convince himself to stop believing irrational things.

But, to answer his question:

http://creationwiki.org/Geocentricity#Related_Scripture
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:16 PM
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http://creationwiki.org/Geocentricity#Related_Scripture


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See:

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Old 07-11-2007, 11:26 PM
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Your criticism of organizational hierarchy applies just as well to science as it does to religion. Scientists want recognition, power and glory as much as anyone else.

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I was thinking about this also while writing it out, and as far as it goes what I said applies to a variety of hierarchical groups, say, government organizations, philosophers, and other examples could be mentioned

I have read Gould's essay on his magisterial concept and I am fairly certain that in the past I have posted about it, and provided a link to the essay, in some thread on this forum. It is an excellent essay and well written. I can't honestly say that I agree with certainty with his concept. But it is worthy of consideration.

-Zeno, The Antipope
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:09 AM
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Modern farming has superseded medival agricultural wisdom.

Modern science has superseded ancient religious beliefs.

Modern moral thought has superseded biblical hand-me-downs.


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What medieval agricultural wisdom in the Bible?
What Bible beliefs has science superseded?
I know your reference to modern morality is just funnin, right?

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I thought someone else mentioned agriculture, I didn't mean it was biblical, just setting up my set of 3 comparable successions.

2nd question has been done to death over and over, I'll assume noone is in such serious denial to cover it again.

3rd is the more interesting. We can show that modern moral thought has superseded Biblical thought by the number of times religious people have to use the word "interpret".

On a cold, literal reading, as atheists are often 'accused' of doing, there is almost nothing of value that can be gleaned from the Bible. And there are many, many examples of things we would all consider horrendous moral practice.

I doubt you'll admit it, but you mostly use a modern, atheist, moral code when deciding which bits of the Bible 'applies today', and how you will interpret those parts.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:17 AM
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I doubt you'll admit it


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At least something in your post is right.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:57 AM
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http://creationwiki.org/Geocentricity#Related_Scripture


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CreationWiki is a free encyclopedia of creation science being assembled by an international team of editors. All creationists are welcome to get involved with the development of this ever-growing resource, which currently consists of 2,950 articles.

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It's a link to your source. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:17 AM
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It's a link to your source.


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Oops, sometimes I go too fast.

Nice post, though.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:16 PM
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Superceeding does not mean replacing.

Things which were correct are kept, things which wrong dropped.
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Old 07-12-2007, 03:23 PM
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What Bible beliefs has science superseded?

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I'll start the list with #1, but I'd like to get everyone involved. Please add on your own.

1. Heliocentricity

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This could be fun ...

2. Genesis
3. Exodus

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4. People coming back from the dead
5. Seas parting
6. Serpents talking
7. Bushes speaking
8. Banishng demons
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