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#11
09-22-2007, 12:59 AM
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Re: Looking at other\'s card. It\'s ok?
i've had it happen before. usually tell them once. then i have no problem taking advantage if i don't have to contort myself to actually see the cards. i won't go out of my way, but i won't NOT use the info if i have it.
as far as it not being fair because other people don't have the same advantage - you could say the same thing about isolating a maniac on your left. not everybody has the same positional advantage, but it doesn't mean it's wrong for you to use it. 
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#12
09-22-2007, 01:39 AM
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Re: Looking at other\'s card. It\'s ok?
Are you making it a point to look at his cards from the first flash? Even if you are, I wouldn't consider you a POS. You seeing the trips seems like it saved you money, so I would offer the warning one afterwards. If he doesn't learn forever after that its his fault.
The only time its happened to me is when (it seemed) a guy was trying to flash his cards to the people sitting behind him watching. I never did tell him but mostly because I was tight and he was lose (boredom). It was mostly to watch but I was gathering info. With that I would probably say I would give a warning, but I might not. I'm not there (B&M) to be nice an polite, but I still act that way always. Home games are a different story, you said a private club so IDN how friendly the game is.
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#13
09-22-2007, 02:54 AM
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Re: Looking at other\'s card. It\'s ok?
Last week in the Commerce 9/18 game the guy in seat 9 nicely says to guy in seat 1 "Excuse me Sir, but jsut to let you know, I can see your cards by the way you are holding them" Seat 1 says "huh" seat 9 repeats it to him and he shrugs and says "whatever" Seat 1 says "okay then".
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#15
09-22-2007, 03:47 AM
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Re: Looking at other\'s card. It\'s ok?
The first time I saw his card, I was looking at my 2 opponents for tells and it happened at the same time his cards was showing. I didnt told him, and I srlsy wonder if I can tell someone who shows his cards to be carefull next time.
The players there all know each other but not really close friend, its very similar to a b&m environment. And what about the dealers in a B&M casino? Can they give me a warning if they notice I have my eyes often on others players hole cards while they take a peak?
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#16
09-22-2007, 05:43 AM
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Re: Looking at other\'s card. It\'s ok?
the dealer's aren't likely to notice and I don't think they have a responsibility or desire to do anything about it. they have a lot of stuff to keep track of besides just dealing cards (size of pot, rake, who's action, etc)
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#17
09-22-2007, 06:41 AM
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Re: Looking at other\'s card. It\'s ok?
[ QUOTE ]
as far as it not being fair because other people don't have the same advantage - you could say the same thing about isolating a maniac on your left. not everybody has the same positional advantage, but it doesn't mean it's wrong for you to use it. [/ QUOTE ] If you believe that having a positional advantage in a hand is no different from cheating your opponents, than you are a douchebag whose parents failed miserably from the moment they decided to keep you after that fateful, drunken night.
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#18
09-22-2007, 06:53 AM
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Re: Looking at other\'s card. It\'s ok?
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i've had it happen before. usually tell them once. then i have no problem taking advantage if i don't have to contort myself to actually see the cards. i won't go out of my way, but i won't NOT use the info if i have it. as far as it not being fair because other people don't have the same advantage - you could say the same thing about isolating a maniac on your left. not everybody has the same positional advantage, but it doesn't mean it's wrong for you to use it. [/ QUOTE ] Except that by rule if you see a card others are supposed to get to see it. So its not like the advantage of having a maniac on your left.
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#20
09-22-2007, 11:53 AM
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Re: Looking at other\'s card. It\'s ok?
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the dealer's aren't likely to notice and I don't think they have a responsibility or desire to do anything about it. they have a lot of stuff to keep track of besides just dealing cards (size of pot, rake, who's action, etc) [/ QUOTE ] One night, I was in the 6 seat. The player in the 5 seat was very careless about looking at her cards. I couldn't help but see them as she looked at them after every street and they were right in my line of sight when I looked at the board cards. Dealer picked up on this and warned her about how she looked at her cards. When he warned her a second time he said if she does it again he'll have to turn her cards up for everyone to see. Interesting call, and I could really see nothing wrong with it if he had to do that.
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