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Old 12-05-2006, 07:24 PM
DrSues02 DrSues02 is offline
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Default 2/4: KJs hits second pair and flush draw on flop..will do in 2 parts

Villain was running at 43/4/2 and seemed pretty bad.

Hero: $552.40
Villain: $397.40

Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Pre-flop:

3 folds, Hero raises to $14. Villain calls. Villain #2
calls.

Flop (board: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]):

Villain bets $27. Villain #2 folds. Hero raises to $90??

Thoughts on raise size? Everyone agree that this is an easy raise?

I'll post turn action in a bit. I was totally confused on this hand.

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Old 12-05-2006, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KJs hits second pair and flush draw on flop..will do in 2 par

this is completely standard...
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Old 12-05-2006, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KJs hits second pair and flush draw on flop..will do in 2 par

so far so good.
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KJs hits second pair and flush draw on flop..will do in 2 par

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so far so good.

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Oh so good
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KJs hits second pair and flush draw on flop..will do in 2 par

I think call is fine.
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KJs hits second pair and flush draw on flop..will do in 2 par

call is fine, but I prefer to raise. Amount is fine
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KJs hits second pair and flush draw on flop..will do in 2 par

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call is fine, but I prefer to raise. Amount is fine

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Old 12-05-2006, 08:57 PM
10kfightyo 10kfightyo is offline
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Default Re: 2/4: KJs hits second pair and flush draw on flop..will do in 2 par

I prefer a flop call when we have some showdown value here. Raising probably doesn't get called by any worse hands other than lower flush draws and won't get a 43/4 guy to lay down an ace.
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KJs hits second pair and flush draw on flop..will do in 2 par

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Villain was running at 43/4/2 and seemed pretty bad.

Hero: $552.40
Villain: $397.40

Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Pre-flop:

3 folds, Hero raises to $14. Villain calls. Villain #2
calls.

Flop (board: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]):

Villain bets $27. Villain #2 folds. Hero raises to $90. Villain calls.



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Turn (board: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]):

Villain checks. Hero bets $175??


Here is the part where I'm confused and I don't think I played this very well.

I missed my flush draw, the board paired, and the villain seems to be pretty passive. He could be on any ace or six, flush draw, another J or just plain garbage.

How many people check here vs putting in another bet? If you do check, you call a pot size bet by him on the river if you miss the draw?

Anyone see a case for pushing in an attempt to fold an A?

I would really like thoughts on this part of the hand.

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Old 12-05-2006, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: KJs hits second pair and flush draw on flop..will do in 2 par

Check behind on the turn. If he has an ace he isn't folding. Do not try to push him off an ace.
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