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Old 08-03-2007, 12:10 AM
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link to youtube vids?
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Old 08-03-2007, 12:23 AM
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lol what are the youtube vids about?
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Old 08-03-2007, 12:37 AM
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nielsio seems very smart and open-minded. i'm too lazy to download his videos, though. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-03-2007, 12:46 AM
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lol what are the youtube vids about?

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The intricacies of shipping it 14/10 style!!!!
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:23 AM
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link to youtube vids?

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http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Nielsio


You can find the different topics here:
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:24 AM
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look forward to watching this...
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Old 08-03-2007, 11:18 AM
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finally d/l it. I'll go through my thoughts as i watch, hopefully you'll know what hands I'm going on about


small point: Q4o i like b/f the river for about 10 he'll look you up light unless he bluffs missed draws alot in which case c/c is good


99 hand i c/c flop lead turn gets value from cbets that way, the way you played it im calling the minraise and re-evaluating (maybe b/f the turn would be good?) he could be minraising a wide range imo, you did donk into him.

QQ: if [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] doesn't come im crai against most villains

i raise ATs utg but w/e


AKo: that mr isnt always a huge hand, i usualy just put him ai on the river and think that he looks me up enough w/ JJ, maybe that's a leak?


JJ: dont think river is very thin, not too likely he has a K i make it 20



with the small value bets, i dont make these against agro players that often (unless i intend to call a raise) because you'll get bluff-raised too often


the K8 is meh i dont agree that if you're calling and folding turn then you should fold flop because he wont always fire turn. folding is fine though.



good AQs pf fold, the shorty seems really passive + arent closing the action, AK i shove/4b



the straight on board is pretty interesting, was in the same spot a little while back against a bad player, i didnt think betting was profitable due to the rake, against a better player i probably would




AQo utg against bad player: "probably going to check river if he calls" i think that's quite bad against this guy, i'm taking this guy to value town, i'd bet more on the turn.



97s: i isolate, as played i call the flop he could feasibly have a hand like KT/9x, you are in decent shape vs T8, unlikely he has a set (88/TT and usually 77; although i noticed you didn't, raises pf). Pretty marginal though.



AK against 43/6/1: must bet the turn for value against weaker Ks, you can fold to a raise at any point but you are missing value checking anywhere this is a great board to stack off KT. Against a nittier player turn check is fine, but not vs a calling station.
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Old 08-03-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: I made another vid (#2)

Right after the 9,9 hand you're in the sb with a,2 and you click the auto fold button before anyone has even acted. You don't try and steal the bb if it folds to you?
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: I made another vid (#2)

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finally d/l it. I'll go through my thoughts as i watch, hopefully you'll know what hands I'm going on about


small point: Q4o i like b/f the river for about 10 he'll look you up light unless he bluffs missed draws alot in which case c/c is good

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Yeah. Villain does seem awfully weak and I could get some value from an 8/5/3/77/66/44/22. And yeah, the K rarely help him and it's an easy bet/fold. His AF is really low so I shouldn't be looking for a c/c because often I'm beat.


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99 hand i c/c flop lead turn gets value from cbets that way, the way you played it im calling the minraise and re-evaluating (maybe b/f the turn would be good?) he could be minraising a wide range imo, you did donk into him.

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I prefer a lead. minraises pre are really weak and prefer to take the lead in these situations. If I had a decent draw I also play it the same. I don't want to get passive in a spot like that where I have a pretty good hand and it's just minraised.

As played, I'm not sure. I guess call the minraise and see what happens, but in my experience I'm facing two more streets of medium to smallish bets and I'm gonna lose the pot a lot. Not very +EV IMHO. But calling at least one time shouldn't be too bad. I still beat some hands like A7/88 and draws. Meh, whatever. Crappy spot. I guess I'd call the next the minraise next time.


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QQ: if [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] doesn't come im crai against most villains

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I do sometimes as well, esp when I think he's drawing due to some weird betsizing (very big or very small).



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i raise ATs utg but w/e

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I didn't realize I folded ATs utg. Are you sure it wasn't ATo?



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AKo: that mr isnt always a huge hand, i usualy just put him ai on the river and think that he looks me up enough w/ JJ, maybe that's a leak?

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I think that's bad here. I absolutely put him on an underpair and I valuebet accordingly.


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JJ: dont think river is very thin, not too likely he has a K i make it 20

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That's too much I think. He seemed really weak. Remember he limp-called BoB and he is 46 vpip. He has like a 7 here at best.



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with the small value bets, i dont make these against agro players that often (unless i intend to call a raise) because you'll get bluff-raised too often

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I agree, it matters a lot how trigger-happy and also how trappy-trappy they are. But I think you see a lot of situations where there is thin value and with good handreading and a set of balls you can make these bets.


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the K8 is meh i dont agree that if you're calling and folding turn then you should fold flop because he wont always fire turn. folding is fine though.

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Standard fold for me against this villain.



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good AQs pf fold, the shorty seems really passive + arent closing the action, AK i shove/4b

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Yeah, I commented on it in the vid.



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the straight on board is pretty interesting, was in the same spot a little while back against a bad player, i didnt think betting was profitable due to the rake, against a better player i probably would

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Yeah, I commented on that as well.



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AQo utg against bad player: "probably going to check river if he calls" i think that's quite bad against this guy, i'm taking this guy to value town, i'd bet more on the turn.

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I like to make bets that he can actually call with his second pair. Also I prefer to keep the pot somewhat more manageable, being oop. If I keep betting big and the pot is very big on the river then riverplay becomes really hard because I'll have to start making some form of valueblockers that can be sniffed out or if I check then having to call a huge bet can be really hard. And I only have TP2K.



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97s: i isolate, as played i call the flop he could feasibly have a hand like KT/9x, you are in decent shape vs T8, unlikely he has a set (88/TT and usually 77; although i noticed you didn't, raises pf). Pretty marginal though.

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I'm having some trouble in deciding to isolate/raise-limpers against villain who have a really low pfr-%. This guy is 28/1 so I really have no idea what he has after he limp-call. It could be as high as JJ.

As played, I'm not calling there. I don't want to be possibly drawing to a split, and if I hit I won't get much value at all, and villain can play perfectly against me.

Easy fold. I'm far behind his range, so I'm drawing, and this draw sucks. Simple.




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AK against 43/6/1: must bet the turn for value against weaker Ks, you can fold to a raise at any point but you are missing value checking anywhere this is a great board to stack off KT. Against a nittier player turn check is fine, but not vs a calling station.

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I guess you have a point there. Sometimes these guys turn their hand (KQ) into a bluff on the turn, so I don't want to get in that spot. But yeah, I could be missing value there.

OTOH, he might bet Kx himself on the turn and then I can lead the river or c/c on the river.

The way I played it, I may get some value from other hands, and villain may also bluff the turn with a float (though he's only 0.8 so that doesn't really count). But he probably pays off middle-pps.

Again, this is an oop situation that I'm a bit conservative. Possibly needs some work.



Thanks for the feedback.
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