NL CASH line check

[Kassu]

Did I screw this one up?

Reads: match just started, he came to the table with almost the max buy-in and cents, so I assume he's busto.

Felt like a weird desperation bluff or weaker TP pushing, because he's busto and wants to double up or go all out. I might be off here tho'.

NL $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Monday, October 15, 20:59:04 GMT 2007
Table Madrid 2-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 2
Seat 1: thanks4cash ( $207 )
Seat 2: haps ( $193.52 )
thanks4cash posts small blind [$1]
haps posts big blind [$2]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to thanks4cash [ 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
thanks4cash raises to [$6]
haps calls [$4]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
haps checks
thanks4cash bets [$8]
haps calls [$8]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
haps checks
thanks4cash bets [$18]
haps calls [$18]
** Dealing River ** [ 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
haps checks
thanks4cash bets [$42]
haps goes all-in
haps raises to [$161.52]
thanks4cash calls [$119.52]

[xSCWx]

Looks standard to me unless you have a read that says otherwise.

[Vinetou]

Totally standard, especially with the fact that he is probably busto. Even without reads, I play it the same.

[xSCWx]

I'm taking a wild guess and saying villain showed up with 44.

Just throwing it out there.

[abcjnich]

This is never a worse hand vbetting. He has you beat or he's bluffing. It's that simple.

[jay_shark]

If his vbets to bluffs are in the right frequency then you don't gain a thing by calling .

The real question becomes : Does my opponent bluff more than the optimal amount or less ?

If he bluffs more , then you should call .
If he bluffs less , then you should fold .

[BarryLyndon]

[ QUOTE ]
If his vbets to bluffs are in the right frequency then you don't gain a thing by calling .

The real question becomes : Does my opponent bluff more than the optimal amount or less ?

If he bluffs more , then you should call .
If he bluffs less , then you should fold .

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought about this a lot, I honestly lean toward a check. But it's close. You have to call the river because tilty players will have a tremendous propensity to try to represent a 2 here. And 97/98 will call you down, T9 as well.

One argument for checking is that a tilty player would RR his 9s a lot to "take the pot down." In fact, if that thought flashed into m y mind, I would probably check behind. But, you can't be faulted for betting here given the action.

PS: One more idea - I much rather lead here if an 8 or a 7 comes on this board. He would have RRed to pair for sure, meaning that I increase my chance of getting a value call from K8/A8/K7/A8/108/Q8/blah blah. That paired 2 makes me more cautious.

Barry

[Cool_Hwip]

[ QUOTE ]
This is never a worse hand vbetting. He has you beat or he's bluffing. It's that simple.

[/ QUOTE ]

wrong.

[BarryLyndon]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This is never a worse hand vbetting. He has you beat or he's bluffing. It's that simple.

[/ QUOTE ]

wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]

Really?

I think that 109, J9, and Q9 RR on the flop. Maybe Q9 is RRing for value, but I don't see it. Sorry. 88 RRing here is absurd.

Barry

[Kassu]

Noone thinks checking the turn might be good?