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Old 11-14-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default 27: TT overpair vs unknown level 1

Poker Stars, $25 + $2 NL Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: 1,500
BTN: 1,490
SB: 1,480
BB: 3,090
Hero (UTG): 1,500
UTG+1: 1,500
MP1: 1,500
MP2: 1,440

Pre-Flop: (30) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero calls 20, 3 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to 120</font>, BTN calls 120, 2 folds, Hero calls 100

Flop: (390) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets 200</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls 200

Turn: (790) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ?
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: 27: TT overpair vs unknown level 1

If you are calling such a big pf raise then I think you either have to lead (and fold to a shove or big raise) or raise his flop bet and plan to get it in. 120 is way too much to pay to try and flop a set, and thats basically what you are doing if you aren't very aggressive on an undercard flop.

I think I bet/fold the flop here usually.

As played you aren't getting a cheap showdown here pretty clearly, so you either need to give up to another bet or crai (getting more value from the hands that you are beating).
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: 27: TT overpair vs unknown level 1

there are so many goons at 27 level though, a donk here could incite a push from some AK/AQ garbage. So you have to go broke on a 7 high turn if you call this much preflop, unless you know the villian, then it can be a very easy fold. (but you'd probably just fold pf in that case)
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:03 AM
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Default Re: 27: TT overpair vs unknown level 1

Reads ?

I'd bet the flop t250 TBH.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: 27: TT overpair vs unknown level 1

Yeah, I'd probably bet this flop. I can maybe see a check raise, but that might be a bit too much. On the other hand, it might slow villain down enough that you can get to showdown a little cheaper.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: 27: TT overpair vs unknown level 1

I raise to 80 preflop and fold if reraised. As played, bet 200-250 on the flop and go from there.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: 27: TT overpair vs unknown level 1

A raise to 120 on level 1 can be anything from crap to a guy with QQ-AA wanting to get some value from a premium hand at such an early stage. It's annoying raising to 60 with aces, get one caller, and then no more action later on.

So I will fold this hand PF most of the time. If I call PF, then a 250 bet on the flop seems fine to me.
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: 27: TT overpair vs unknown level 1

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Reads ?

I'd bet the flop t250 TBH.

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Old 11-15-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: 27: TT overpair vs unknown level 1

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Reads ?

I'd bet the flop t250 TBH.

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CO shoves you?
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: 27: TT overpair vs unknown level 1

Read dependent. Usually a fold. I'm betting 250 so that I can lose the minimum.
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