Limit guy needs MTT help: What's this 'All In' thing?

DocMartin · #1 06-13-2006, 03:14 AM

I won a seat to the WSOP in a promotion by playing a 500K hands of shorthanded limit holdem. Now I am hitting the MTT's hard for practice and I feel out of my element. My hourly rate has plummeted but I want to make the best of it.

I've done the required reading (the standards along with HOH I-III, TPFAP and a couple others) now I am battling with the application. I'm not much of a hand poster so I've grouped a few I was wondering about. Like a quiz only I dont know the answers. Kind of obvious from the post but I push em all, lose em all. Where could I do better?

Hand #1. $11rebuy. Shortish with 99 in EP. I wanna play it but feel like a raise would commit me.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (8 handed)
BB (t62455)
UTG (t137401)
Hero (t39708)
MP1 (t140674)
MP2 (t65866)
CO (t65444)
Button (t35757)
SB (t38644)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero ??

Hand #2: $3rebuy. AQs in the BB. Raiser appears to be a sane TAG. Plan?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed)
MP1 (t8260)
MP2 (t9820)
MP3 (t12285)
CO (t4145)
Button (t20775)
SB (t14705)
Hero (t19973)
UTG (t19089)
UTG+1 (t34645)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 raises to t1200, 3 folds, Hero ??

Hand #3: $3rebuy. AKo facing reraise from average donk.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (9 handed)
MP2 (t12110)
MP3 (t58725)
CO (t16857)
Button (t11062)
SB (t35270)
BB (t19200)
Hero (t10626)
UTG+1 (t18989)
MP1 (t31895)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t2400, 2 folds, MP2 raises to t4200, 5 folds, Hero ??

Hand #4: $11rebuy. AKo facing a min raise from any broadway min raiser.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed)
UTG (t9125)
UTG+1 (t13150)
MP1 (t7160)
MP2 (t4735)
MP3 (t5295)
CO (t15140)
Hero (t6980)
SB (t9850)
BB (t11790)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 raises to t800, 1 fold, Hero ??

beenben · #2 06-13-2006, 03:22 AM

Another thing you can read is the anthology of MTT wisdom which is stickied to the top of the forum. or I wrote a summary and posted it.

hand 1 - you've got a medium pair UTG which, in an ideal world, you'd like to fold, but b/c your M is only around 5, push and hope for all fold, or get doubled up by over cards or, better yet, an under pair.

hand 2 - min. raise. two ways to play it - call to disguise your hand and make a decision based upon flop. or, re-raise to 3x his raise- finds out where you're at and defends your blind when you've got a top 6 hand.

hand 3 - push or fold. i vote push. calling is meh.

hand 4- same answer as #1. call 2 disguise, or push.

betgo · #3 06-13-2006, 03:23 AM

All 4 hands are pushes.

DocMartin · #4 06-13-2006, 03:30 AM

Hand 2. If I raise 3x, make it T3600 to go, can I fold to a push knowing I am likely beat and keep 7K to fight another day?

Mjafish · #5 06-13-2006, 03:41 AM

whats wrong with just calling 800 and seeing a flop with AQs?

Arnett23 · #6 06-13-2006, 04:21 AM

Pushing hand #2 is terrible, worst of all 4 options. Call, re-raise to 4kish, or fold are all better. If you push you are only getting called by a dominating hand. I don't think jacks or 10's call in that spot. And raising to 3600 would leave you with 16k left to play if you folded to a push unless I am totally reading it wrong. Space it out a little more next time.

beenben · #7 06-13-2006, 04:36 AM

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Hand 2. If I raise 3x, make it T3600 to go, can I fold to a push knowing I am likely beat and keep 7K to fight another day?

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if you were really only goint to have 7k left then it w/have been a push. but you've got ~16 if you fold to a push.

betgo · #8 06-13-2006, 09:04 AM

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whats wrong with just calling 800 and seeing a flop with AQs?

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I misread hand 2 and thought it was a limper. Flat calling is best. The stack sizes are not suited to a reraise.

greg44 · #9 06-13-2006, 09:45 AM

Download Pokerstove (www.pokerstove.com) and attempt to put people on hand ranges for every hand you play (and the ones you watch if you want). After you compare your equity% in pokerstove compare it to your pot odds and you will see if your +EV in these situations.

hand 1: you have less then 10 big blinds and there are antes so just push because any raise w/ a flop bet commits you. I'd probably even push all in with 12 big blinds or less.

Hand 2: Your too deep for any all in play. You just have to play poker here. You can either call or reraise to like 4.5k. Playing out of position is tough but AQs is too good to fold vs a hi jack raise. If you were shorter (like 20 big blinds or less) you should probably reraise all-in.

Hand 3: This read dependant imo. I think this is a fold only if you think this is the kinda minreraise w/ KK+. If not (meaning AK,QQ,JJ,TT?) then you should push and gamble while you have a lot of chips.

Hand 4: MP2 has 12 big blinds and if he's raising w/ any two broadway you have him killed. Therefore, you should reraise and with his stack size it should be all in.

betgo · #10 06-13-2006, 10:03 AM

Reraising to 4.5K in hand 2 is bad, because you are pot committed to call a push.