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Old 01-19-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default 5CD: AKxxx free big blind...d3/d4?

ok, i'm in the big blind, and its not been raised.
i've got an ace, and a king.
how many should i be drawing?
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Old 01-19-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: 5CD: AKxxx free big blind...d3/d4?

In any non-pair, non-come, I usually draw to any A or K, throw away everything else. In this case, draw 3.

My reasoning is that if you have one or two limpers who miss their draws, AK high may be good whereas Ax high might not. And pairing either one of them could win you the pot.
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Old 01-20-2007, 08:19 AM
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Default Re: 5CD: AKxxx free big blind...d3/d4?

I think you should draw to the ace, the only time I take 3 is if I raised and plan on betting hit or miss.
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: 5CD: AKxxx free big blind...d3/d4?

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ok, i'm in the big blind, and its not been raised.
i've got an ace, and a king.
how many should i be drawing?

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Mathematically, i read it somewhere, it is better to draw three in order to improve to a pair or better, also you cannot bluff after drawing four...
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Old 01-20-2007, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: 5CD: AKxxx free big blind...d3/d4?

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I think you should draw to the ace, the only time I take 3 is if I raised and plan on betting hit or miss.

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If it is raised then fold...betting whether you hit or miss is suicidal as players will call whether you hit or miss...
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Old 01-20-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 5CD: AKxxx free big blind...d3/d4?

anyone else?
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Old 01-20-2007, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: 5CD: AKxxx free big blind...d3/d4?

Of course it depends on what you are playing. Ring game foldeing in the SB... raise bet out.....3 other player limping and your in BB...take 4
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 5CD: AKxxx free big blind...d3/d4?

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Of course it depends on what you are playing. Ring game foldeing in the SB... raise bet out.....3 other player limping and your in BB...take 4

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What about the fact bluffs are no longer possible when taking four? Though on plus side the incredulous will pay off when he hits two pair or trips.
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: 5CD: AKxxx free big blind...d3/d4?

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ok, i'm in the big blind, and its not been raised.
i've got an ace, and a king.
how many should i be drawing?

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Mathematically, i read it somewhere, it is better to draw three in order to improve to a pair or better, also you cannot bluff after drawing four...

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Albert Morehead in The Complete Guide To Poker 1973 states this. It is a mistake not a question of it depends to take one...IMHO.
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Old 01-20-2007, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: 5CD: AKxxx free big blind...d3/d4?

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I think you should draw to the ace, the only time I take 3 is if I raised and plan on betting hit or miss.

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Bad play here to take 4. Not only does AKxxx likely win against two drawing hands, but you also want a showdown if you pair up.

Taking 4 invites the button to bet into you with a smaller pair, and you don't want to put yourself in a scenario where you're having to make that kind of decision.
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