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Old 11-29-2007, 02:00 PM
ungar2000 ungar2000 is offline
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Default flop nuts, T/R suck

Villian is 60/11 with AF of 3.23 over 106 hands
Im at 20/15/5

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($46, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $33</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($112, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $100</font>, Hero calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($312, 2 players)
Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: $312

500.00 deep

Flop play is standard, but turn play? Riv?
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

wouldve lead turn and shoved if he raised
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

what he said
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

and bet more on the flop :\
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

yeah. he's probably not betting worse on the turn so c/r is no good. just get it in yourself with your 1,000,000 outs if you are actually behind.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

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wouldve lead turn and shoved if he raised

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Old 11-29-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

when u check call the turn i think you give away where you are in the hand and i think the real question should be what would u have done if he value bets the riv
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:17 PM
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when u check call the turn i think you give away where you are in the hand and i think the real question should be what would u have done if he value bets the riv

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....im not sure you give away exactly AA, but agreed, I don't see the point of putting a lot of $ in on the turn. Your hand doesn't have nearly as much value as it did on the flop; im not sure how many second best hands are mathematically and realistically possible here for your villian. I woulda just checked and called, or perhaps bet about 1/2 the pot on the turn. The riv is pretty tricky, you could possibly lead out with a small bet to try and get a cheap showdown, but any smart opponent may read this for what it is...i would prob check and decide whether to call based upon my read and the amount bet on the river...
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:18 PM
Pokernomix Pokernomix is offline
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how much did the villain bet on the riv?
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: flop nuts, T/R suck

As played I think its an easy fold. He will check anything you beat.
As for the advice to bet/3bet allin on turn. I dont see why this is good. [ QUOTE ]
yeah. he's probably not betting worse on the turn so c/r is no good. just get it in yourself with your 1,000,000 outs if you are actually behind.

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You dont have that many outs, probably 8 or 9, with one card to come and you are a bit deeper than a buyin. I think a Bet/fold is okay too, I dont think a bluff raise is likely. But so far I am the only one who doesnt like bet/3bet allin on turn.
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