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Old 10-15-2007, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: Boring KK Hand: $1/$2

I usually bet $29 here, but that probably costs us some action from the other dude
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: Boring KK Hand: $1/$2

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I usually bet $29 here

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wtf
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:00 AM
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Default Re: Boring KK Hand: $1/$2

uh this hand is confusing.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: Boring KK Hand: $1/$2

The are def. merits to betting $14.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: Boring KK Hand: $1/$2

I would never check, and can be persuaded either way to bet 14 or more than 14.

I would bet larger though usually.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: Boring KK Hand: $1/$2

Oh, I get it. You want to bet small so that SB will try to isolate raise the shorty and then you come over the top?

I'm not sure we would have enough info to go with it like that. I think I'd prefer betting an amount that does not induce action because I like more information first. If you bet 17, shorty shoves, and SB coldcalls and you call, then we can bomb the turn nicely on a blank and he checks.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: Boring KK Hand: $1/$2

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I usually bet $29 here

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wtf

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shorty has $29 left it's not just a random number
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: Boring KK Hand: $1/$2

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Maybe if BTN had like $32 I'd bet $16 so I could reopen the betting but I'm not willing to only bet $14 here.

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Why not?

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I just don't think that the value gained by reopening the betting when the trifecta of:
1. short stack pushes
2. guy who messes with you often calls 2 bets cold
3. you're still getting value from worse hands after the previous two things happen
is worth giving better odds to draws, and not getting money more money in the pot now. Betting bigger makes any bluff that SB makes more expensive, and gives you the best chance of stacking a J by the river imo.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:10 AM
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better odds to draws

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I guess I just don't see the difference between giving them 2.6:1 vs 2.4:1
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: Boring KK Hand: $1/$2

Its not only making him have thinner odds but also creating a bigger pot for the next couple rounds so you can get more off him
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