Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Mid-High Stakes Shorthanded
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-15-2007, 12:01 PM
Hoi Polloi Hoi Polloi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: workin\' the variance bell curve
Posts: 2,049
Default 3 pairs - is this a value bet?

3 handed. I'm running well and pounding a couple of passive, timid financiers.

Button is not a moron, but he is way too passive for 6-handed let alone 3.

Button raises, I 3-bet A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] from SB. BB folds.

Flop T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

I bet, he calls.

Turn J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

I bet, he calls.

River 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Do you bet again here?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-15-2007, 12:03 PM
danzasmack danzasmack is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: DYNAMO HARSHBART
Posts: 7,370
Default Re: 3 pairs - is this a value bet?

why wouldn't you bet?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-15-2007, 12:07 PM
cdlarmore cdlarmore is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,273
Default Re: 3 pairs - is this a value bet?

for sure, the ace that thinks he is splitting is getting banged up by your turn, nh
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-15-2007, 02:10 PM
Bill Haywood Bill Haywood is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 746
Default Re: 3 pairs - is this a value bet?

I'm trying to find more places to bet/fold the river, and this looks like one of them. If he does have an 8 (or T) you'll for sure hear back, even from a passive player. But cdlarmore is right, ace+7 and down are plausible hands, which you beat, and there are what, 72 combinations of that out there. Plus 12 more A9 = 84.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-15-2007, 02:17 PM
cdlarmore cdlarmore is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,273
Default Re: 3 pairs - is this a value bet?

I think part of the problem is that i acutally have a hard time folding to a raise, here is why...
at this level, A high bluff raises that river figuring he is splitting a ton of the time and it is safe, plus easy fold to 3 bet. Also, if he has the boat, i think he pops turn, not river...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-15-2007, 03:44 PM
Palomino Palomino is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 449
Default Re: 3 pairs - is this a value bet?

If villain has the 8 he isn't gonna raise until river, and being passive he may not even raise there w/ the bottom boat. I also doubt that passive villain would raise A high, just not in his nature.

That being said I 100% bet river here. Big ace is very likely.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-15-2007, 10:10 PM
Hoi Polloi Hoi Polloi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: workin\' the variance bell curve
Posts: 2,049
Default Re: 3 pairs - is this a value bet?

Well, that's what I thought. Then when he popped it, I thought "well, what am I gonna do now?"
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-15-2007, 10:11 PM
gehrig gehrig is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: CHICAGO
Posts: 3,950
Default Re: 3 pairs - is this a value bet?

[ QUOTE ]
Well, that's what I thought. Then when he popped it, I thought "well, what am I gonna do now?"

[/ QUOTE ]
whats to think about
foldfoldfoldoflfdlfodfldofldfodfdffldlsdlldsld
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-15-2007, 10:19 PM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,590
Default Re: 3 pairs - is this a value bet?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Well, that's what I thought. Then when he popped it, I thought "well, what am I gonna do now?"

[/ QUOTE ]
whats to think about
foldfoldfoldoflfdlfodfldofldfodfdffldlsdlldsld

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]

Button is not a moron, but he is way too passive for 6-handed let alone 3.

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-16-2007, 03:45 AM
Josh. Josh. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 20,208
Default Re: 3 pairs - is this a value bet?

he has to be pretty damn passive for me to fold the riv. most people cant help themselves from raising with 77

plus if hes so passive he might not value raise with an 8, and no i dont think that correlates with his bluffing frequency. some bad players miss really easy value bets but have no problem making retarded bluffs
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.