Top pair good here?

Poseidon65 · #1 11-03-2007, 04:02 PM

Thoughts on this hand? Villain is 40/5/0.5 over 21 hands. Apologies if this is really straightforward, I haven't been playing much poker lately.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $9.15
UTG: $25.10
Hero (BTN): $30.85
SB: $15.20

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, SB folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $4.05, BB calls $3.30

Turn: ($9.90) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $4.25 and is All-In, Hero calls $4.25

wingchunflush · #2 11-03-2007, 04:06 PM

21 hands isnt enough to formulate any reads with. I dont feel great about this, but I think we have to call.

finalboarder · #3 11-03-2007, 04:06 PM

I would have to say that you are really almost never good here. I don't think villian would make the reraise call with just a flush draw but he might have a set, two pair, or higher q. And I don't think that I like the reraise on the flop with just TPGK.

wingchunflush · #4 11-03-2007, 04:07 PM

I agree I dont like raising his flop bet, your bloating the pot with a mrginal holding.

Bantam222 · #5 11-03-2007, 04:14 PM

If you're going to raise the flop cbet you have to call the turn push... From 40BB shortstacks this line can be pretty much anything..usually some random pair / air

Sniiii · #6 11-03-2007, 04:20 PM

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I agree I dont like raising his flop bet, your bloating the pot with a mrginal holding.

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That's an extremely bad advice. We raise this flop 100% of the time unless villain has the nittiest stats ever (which he doesn't). You want to make flushdraws pay here, and at the same time get some information from him, telling you where you're at. We're folding to a push on flop.

I don't like the size of your flop-raise, however. It's way too big and forces you to call a push on turn, due to the size of the pot. He's a tricky opponent due to his short stack, but I think I'd either raise this to 3$ or just push him.

Hebel · #7 11-03-2007, 04:33 PM

agreed. you have to raise the flop, but id raise it closer to 2.50.

Poseidon65 · #8 11-03-2007, 04:36 PM

Thanks for the thoughts guys. I've been playing extremely spewy poker lately, not sure why. Here are the results:

Results: $18.40 Pot ($0.90 Rake)
BB showed J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (Ace King high) and LOST (-$9.15 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and WON $17.50 (+$8.35 NET)

Sniiii · #9 11-03-2007, 04:43 PM

My line would be like this:

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $9.15
UTG: $25.10
Hero (BTN): $30.85
SB: $15.20

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, SB folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.25

Turn: ($7.80) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $5.25 and is All-In, Hero folds

Poseidon65 · #10 11-03-2007, 04:45 PM

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My line would be like this:

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $9.15
UTG: $25.10
Hero (BTN): $30.85
SB: $15.20

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, SB folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.25

Turn: ($7.80) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $5.25 and is All-In, Hero folds

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I agree this is much better than how I played it.