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11-18-2007, 06:59 PM
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Re: tough 2p2 donks turn scare card
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you lose [/ QUOTE ] Yeah probably, but more importantly what exactly do you think this bet means? could easily be a cheap semi bluff IMO but im not sure, hate it when people do this 
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#2
11-18-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: tough 2p2 donks turn scare card
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[ QUOTE ] you lose [/ QUOTE ] Yeah probably, but more importantly what exactly do you think this bet means? could easily be a cheap semi bluff IMO but im not sure, hate it when people do this [/ QUOTE ] it means you lose. I don't think the pot is big enough to do anything but fold here.
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#3
11-18-2007, 07:08 PM
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Re: tough 2p2 donks turn scare card
I interpret this turn lead as something like BP/MP that wasn't strong enough to c/r the flop but now wants to charge flush draws, or a straight draw that picked up the flush draw too. something like Qs8c. I think a flush is possible some of the time too
hopefully villain will drop by at some point and enlighten us
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#4
11-18-2007, 07:18 PM
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Re: tough 2p2 donks turn scare card
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it means you lose. I don't think the pot is big enough to do anything but fold here. [/ QUOTE ] Im not debating it, I fold here too we have a weak hand and no good redraws its a no brainer IMO. Im just curious how you intrepret his play here coz it confuses me when people take this line
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#5
11-18-2007, 07:22 PM
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Re: tough 2p2 donks turn scare card
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[ QUOTE ] it means you lose. I don't think the pot is big enough to do anything but fold here. [/ QUOTE ] Im not debating it, I fold here too we have a weak hand and no good redraws its a no brainer IMO. Im just curious how you intrepret his play here coz it confuses me when people take this line [/ QUOTE ] Right - I mean without a strong read (as in, villain is tilty/FPSy Heisenberg, which this isn't) fold is reasonably easy, but wtf does he have?
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#6
11-18-2007, 07:47 PM
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Re: tough 2p2 donks turn scare card
I dont think folding here is that easy cuz his line is bs
No c/r with fd on this flop? bs No c/r on flop with Ax? Maybe, but I lean towards bs This looks like Jx or 9x that dont wanna hand out free cards. Against a range of those hands and the possibility of picking up the pot on a spade river I dont think folding here is "easy". Not saying I call. But when people play bs lines you should at least think twice before you fold.
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#7
11-19-2007, 12:06 AM
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Re: tough 2p2 donks turn scare card
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I dont think folding here is that easy cuz his line is bs No c/r with fd on this flop? bs No c/r on flop with Ax? Maybe, but I lean towards bs This looks like Jx or 9x that dont wanna hand out free cards. Against a range of those hands and the possibility of picking up the pot on a spade river I dont think folding here is "easy". Not saying I call. But when people play bs lines you should at least think twice before you fold. [/ QUOTE ] in my experience, when good players take a b/s line, its a reverse psychology kind of thing. They realize that they are doing something that is confusing, but they want you to call down or raise with the exact hand we have. sure it could be a gutshot + turn flush draw, the only problem is, that hand has about 20 outs on us. Pot is small, we barely hit it, I'm folding here.
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#8
11-19-2007, 06:36 AM
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Re: tough 2p2 donks turn scare card
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I dont think folding here is that easy cuz his line is bs No c/r with fd on this flop? bs No c/r on flop with Ax? Maybe, but I lean towards bs This looks like Jx or 9x that dont wanna hand out free cards. Against a range of those hands and the possibility of picking up the pot on a spade river I dont think folding here is "easy". Not saying I call. But when people play bs lines you should at least think twice before you fold. [/ QUOTE ] where did you get the idea that villians play the same as you? maiby his normal line is to c/c draws and donk when he hits them
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#9
11-19-2007, 08:45 AM
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Re: tough 2p2 donks turn scare card
Would you guys fold J9? KJ? A2?
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#10
11-19-2007, 10:19 AM
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Re: tough 2p2 donks turn scare card
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[ QUOTE ] I dont think folding here is that easy cuz his line is bs No c/r with fd on this flop? bs No c/r on flop with Ax? Maybe, but I lean towards bs This looks like Jx or 9x that dont wanna hand out free cards. Against a range of those hands and the possibility of picking up the pot on a spade river I dont think folding here is "easy". Not saying I call. But when people play bs lines you should at least think twice before you fold. [/ QUOTE ] where did you get the idea that villians play the same as you? maiby his normal line is to c/c draws and donk when he hits them [/ QUOTE ] a) nobody does that b) if he do Seth would know.
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