all hell breaks loose on a monotone flop vs. two live ones (200bb)

[LegallyBlind]

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $622.80
UTG+1: $616.05
CO: $663
Button: $1361.45
Hero: $1253.65
BB: $520.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $18</font>, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($72, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $36</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $132</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $502.2</font>, UTG+1 folds, Button calls, Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


both villans are bad players. but obviously aren't throwing around stacks every hand. pretty sure one has the flush...although maybe one could have aces up and the other the nut draw or something. but im probably behind since they LOVE suited cards.

BB is like 41/29/2

UTG+1 is 80/27/1.5

edit: just want to point out that UTG+1 and i have about 700 more on top of BB's shove

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set

[Jeff W]

Uhm, obv get it in. Poker 101.

[PerDoom]

They can't have AA here with preflop action, which is the only hand you can worry about here. All-in.

[Kala1928]

Calling with 7,5 outs is sorta bad. And Ax has redraws if A hits, and if he has 2p you're drawing really thin.
Button propably has like AxQc but BB really has a flush very often, sometimes 99. Add up how many outs you have vs them and how many outs they have vs you(and you have the best hand very rarely) and three ways you should muckit.

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Calling with 7,5 outs is sorta bad. And Ax has redraws if A hits, and if he has 2p you're drawing really thin.
Button propably has like AxQc but BB really has a flush very often, sometimes 99. Add up how many outs you have vs them and how many outs they have vs you and three ways you should muckit.

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subtracting outs from each players hands? what?

[Kala1928]

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Calling with 7,5 outs is sorta bad. And Ax has redraws if A hits, and if he has 2p you're drawing really thin.
Button propably has like AxQc but BB really has a flush very often, sometimes 99. Add up how many outs you have vs them and how many outs they have vs you and three ways you should muckit.

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subtracting outs from each players hands? what?

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plz elaborate what is confusing you

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Calling with 7,5 outs is sorta bad. And Ax has redraws if A hits, and if he has 2p you're drawing really thin.
Button propably has like AxQc but BB really has a flush very often, sometimes 99. Add up how many outs you have vs them and how many outs they have vs you and three ways you should muckit.

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subtracting outs from each players hands? what?

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plz elaborate what is confusing you

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nothing really, just not that good at math

[Kala1928]

Hero is very very rarely ahead of both(like 20% of the time) and even when he is the opponents have around 10 outs vs hero - heros redraws which makes it about 8. When hero does not have the best hand he has about 7 outs.
So hero has 68% equity 20% of the time and 28% equity 80% of the time. Which is bad.

[Jeff W]

Button is [censored] 80/27 and BB is hyperagro idiot, give me a break. Worst case scenario is that we put 35.5% of money in pot at 31.9% equity. That is vs. 100% flush/set/two pair range for both players. Throw in combo draws and AxXc and equity skyrockets.