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Old 09-13-2007, 06:13 PM
FreshMeat FreshMeat is offline
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Default 25 NL TT overpair on turn

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $20.85
BB: $36.60
UTG: $28.10
UTG+1: $6.75
MP1: $36.75
MP2: $27.25
Hero (CO): $34.25
BTN: $4.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.00</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $2.00</font>, Hero calls $2.00

Turn: ($6.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $5.00</font>, hero???

villian is 10/4/1.1 210 hands

was this a good place to float. i felt he had me beat on turn but wasnt sure? comments on all streets please
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: 25 NL TT overpair on turn

I would fold. Probably you are against an overpair.
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: 25 NL TT overpair on turn

Raise flop, fold to shove or big reraise.
I did not even know the term floating is used when you have an overpair to the board...
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: 25 NL TT overpair on turn

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Raise flop, fold to shove or big reraise.

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He's VPIP 10% and low agression. Raise flop for info. If he doesn't fold, there is nothing in his range that you beat.
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: 25 NL TT overpair on turn

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Raise flop, fold to shove or big reraise.

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He's VPIP 10% and low agression. Raise flop for info. If he doesn't fold, there is nothing in his range that you beat.

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Old 09-14-2007, 06:49 AM
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Default Re: 25 NL TT overpair on turn

I wouldn't raise the flop for info against his small raising range from the UTG (QQ+, AK, maybe just AKs); then you are really blowing away money also seen his low AF. Just call (which might actually be -EV if he he is only raising AKs) and if he double barrels like he did, fold. He will check the turn if he has AK seen his low AF.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: 25 NL TT overpair on turn

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I wouldn't raise the flop for info against his small raising range from the UTG (QQ+, AK, maybe just AKs); then you are really blowing away money also seen his low AF. Just call (which might actually be -EV if he he is only raising AKs) and if he double barrels like he did, fold. He will check the turn if he has AK seen his low AF.

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+1

Raise will be more expansive than just call his "small" bets.
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: 25 NL TT overpair on turn

I don't know, that leaves us without knowing how to proceed in this hand.
What do we do when turn bricks and villain bets again? Just fold?
What if an overcard hits on the turn? Do we want to give a free card here?
I still think raising is better here, it might even take the pot down right here...
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:41 AM
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I don't know, that leaves us without knowing how to proceed in this hand.
What do we do when turn bricks and villain bets again? Just fold?
What if an overcard hits on the turn? Do we want to give a free card here?
I still think raising is better here, it might even take the pot down right here...

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Interested in knowing what kind of range you put villain with 4pfr and 1.1 Ag on after he leads the flop? Aren't villians with that low of Post flop Ag pretty much only betting made hands? Also, I'd lean toward raising flop. Against this type you will probably get to the river for free and his response obviously will dictate how we play the rest of the hand. Plus it cheaper than a turn raise for the same info and give's us initiative.
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: 25 NL TT overpair on turn

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I wouldn't raise the flop for info against his small raising range from the UTG (QQ+, AK, maybe just AKs); then you are really blowing away money also seen his low AF. Just call (which might actually be -EV if he he is only raising AKs) and if he double barrels like he did, fold. He will check the turn if he has AK seen his low AF.

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+1

Raise will be more expansive than just call his "small" bets.

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This opponent is pretty predictable I think. If he bets the turn he has something. He doesn't raise UTG with A9 or any unpaired 9 for that matter so he must have something that beats you...

Because of his predictablity, the "float" is better than the raise for info. It's cheaper and you get information that is about as reliable.
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