"Jesus" advises Yang to stiff dealers?

[Double Ice]

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Great another thread about tipping dealers.
I am a Craps and BJ dealer and this quote is another reason why i will never deal poker. Statements from Jerkoffs like these are why. If you dont beleive in tipping then dont do it, but dont try to influence others on what to do.

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Seriously, how DARE they try to influence others.

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This is not the issue. The issue is that many dealers, strippers, cocktail waitresses, etc. frequently completely lie / exaggerate their income wildly to generate more tips.

[suzy89222]

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Of course, pig ignorant dealers will continue to whine and complain that they don't get enough. I played in a MGM tourney where the dealers got $5 out of each $45 entry fee, and one dealer complained that it hardly added up to anything. When I pointed out that it was more than one of the higher placing prizes, the dealer had nothing to say to that.

If they don't disclose that the dealers receive a suitably large cut, there should be lawsuits. God I hate tip hustling dealers.

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i hate them too, and i used to deal.

[Ramon Scott]

Lam went around giving extra tokes. He is also a former dealer.

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Every year it seems like there's drama about what someone tipped or didn't tip.

Ferguson simply pointed out that he already had $150,000 taken out of his prize for the dealers. That seems like important information. When they ask you if you want to leave a tip, I don't think they say, "You've already tipped $150,000, would you like to leave anything more than that?"

If someone told me that the guy won $8 million and left a $150,000 tip for the dealers, I would think that sounded like a nice tip. I'm certainly not going to think less of the guy because the tip was automatically deducted.

If I go to a restaurant and they automatically add an 18% tip onto the check, and that's all we leave, I think it would be pretty lame to claim we "stiffed" the waitress. Yet that's the title of this post.

[Butcho22]

^^ well said ^^

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^^ well said ^^

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Amen.

[DesertCat]

I'm guessing that there were about 10,000 dealer hours at the Main Event. 1.8% was taken from a $60M prize pool, which works out to $960,000. 30% went to management, leaving $612,000 for dealers. So dealers got tipped around $60 per hour?

That can't be right. What's wrong with my math?

[phiphika1453]

probably the dealer hours, how did you get that number?

[phiphika1453]

that article said they were guaranteed $25 per down. Without any extra tips that is still good money. 12-14 downs a day seems like a fair estimate. 14*25= $350/day.

Um, they make plenty.

[DesertCat]

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probably the dealer hours, how did you get that number?

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Just guessing. I used an average of 100 tables per Day 1 (assuming they started at 150 and ended at 50), and 14 hours per day. 100 x 14 x 4 days = 5600 hours. If that's correct it's pretty hard to even get to 10,000 hours when you are already down to 1600 players by the day 2s. I think I must be off by a factor of two or three somewhere...