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09-11-2007, 10:55 PM
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Raise cap in NL?
2/5 NL game at Harrah's NO. Initial raise to $10 by EP, reraise to $20 by MP1, reraise to $30 by MP2. (I know these are stupid raises, but EP liked to minraise and a couple of guys started minreraising him a lot.)
MP2 now claims that the betting is capped by his 4 bet just like it would be in a LHE game, even though the hijack, cutoff, button, and both blinds haven't acted at all and all initial actors have had no option to raise his action. MP2 gets denied by the table/dealer regarding his concept of the rules and turns down the option of a floor ruling, but continues to claim that that's the rule at Harrah's NO and that he's had floor rulings to that effect in the past. Is there any licensed/tribal casino in the US that actually has this 4 bet rule for NL? My reading of the Harrah's NO rules indicates that in NL raises are unlimited, but I can see at least one recent floorperson screwing up the ruling. 
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09-11-2007, 11:08 PM
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Re: Raise cap in NL?
Honestly this is just uninformed and inexperienced poker room managers. I've heard people claim this before but later take it back once they talk to someone in the know.
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#4
09-11-2007, 11:50 PM
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Re: Raise cap in NL?
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Honestly this is just uninformed and inexperienced poker room managers. I've heard people claim this before but later take it back once they talk to someone in the know. [/ QUOTE ] I believe there is an exception to this in AC. Hopefully some AC people will chime in, but I am pretty sure by law NL is played by limit rules (# of raises etc).
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#5
09-12-2007, 12:06 AM
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Re: Raise cap in NL?
I think the Bike has/had the cap rule for tourneys. The "no limit" in no limit texas hold em means both the size of the bet and the amount of raises.
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#6
09-12-2007, 12:11 AM
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Re: Raise cap in NL?
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I think the Bike has/had the cap rule for tourneys. The "no limit" in no limit texas hold em means both the size of the bet and the amount of raises. [/ QUOTE ] No, they are are familiar with poker at the Bike. Just as a note after the third or fourth raise all raises need to be at least 1/2 the pot.
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#7
09-12-2007, 12:23 AM
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Re: Raise cap in NL?
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I think the Bike has/had the cap rule for tourneys. The "no limit" in no limit texas hold em means both the size of the bet and the amount of raises. [/ QUOTE ] They may have had the cap a long time ago (2003 maybe) but if they did it went away quickly.
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#8
09-12-2007, 08:39 AM
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Re: Raise cap in NL?
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[ QUOTE ] Honestly this is just uninformed and inexperienced poker room managers. I've heard people claim this before but later take it back once they talk to someone in the know. [/ QUOTE ] I believe there is an exception to this in AC. Hopefully some AC people will chime in, but I am pretty sure by law NL is played by limit rules (# of raises etc). [/ QUOTE ] That is not how it plays at either Taj or Borgata (the only places I have played big bet in AC). And I can recall multiple specific pots where there were a large number of small raises in a 3 or 4 handed street.
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#9
09-12-2007, 03:12 AM
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Re: Raise cap in NL?
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I have never seen a limit to the number of raises permissible in a PL/NL game. Some room somewhere having an excessively retarded rule like this would not surprise me though. [/ QUOTE ] It's a stupid rule, but I have seen it in 2 Vegas casinos lately. Both Cannery and Rampart use this insane 3 raise cap in NL games. Great for colluders IMO. And I found out that both rooms are being run by the same manager splitting the time between both.
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