QQ overpair turn decision.

[jeanbaptiste36]

Everest Poker 50c/25c

Villain is 26/1/1.

Villain limps. Hero raises with QhQc. The small blind and the limper call.

The flop is 2dJd8s.
The small blind checks and the limper bets. Hero raises. The small blind calls two and the limper reraises. Hero calls and the small blind calls.

The turn is 3c.
SB checks. The limper bets. What should Hero do and why?

Haven't posted in a while because I have been going through the stickies so this is just a little check if I have learnt anything. If everyone agrees with my answer and reasoning.

[bozlax]

Posting blind: if you've played the hand correctly to this point, and if it's really a decision, then the answer is probably fold.

Having read your post: 0 for 2.

As to misplaying: why didn't you cap the flop? This Villan is overplaying Jx WAY more than he's got a set, and there's no two-pair for him to have made. Most likely he's on a diamond draw plus second pair.

As to this being a decision: well, yes, you have to pick an action. This is a pretty easy raise, tho. Try to get the blind to leave, and pump your equity against his most likely holdings. If he 3pops, call down.

[Grease]

I would need more than stats to lay this down here. If you have a solid read that this guy is really, really passive with all but the nuts, you might be able to muck it, but I don't think that's the case.

You didn't cap the flop (I would have.) If he fires again, then it might mean more, but since he was the last aggressor the last betting round, I think this is definitely a must-call scenario. I think you find AJ and KJ here very often. If he has JJ, J8 or 88, you have 2 (or more outs, in the case of two pair.)

I don't really want to see those cards hit the muck, TBH.

Honestly, as played, I would raise the turn. Knock out the SB and take the free SD if you're scared. If he treys, well, then you puke (and probably call.) I've been a bit spewy at times, so this may be rubbish, FWIW.

[Aaron W.]

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The turn is 3c.
SB checks. The limper bets. What should Hero do and why?

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Did you think about the turn decision before or after you called the flop 3-bet? If the answer is after, then you played it poorly. If the answer is before, then you need to explain why you called the 3-bet.

You really should have your turn line figured out for 99% of the situations before you decide how to respond to the 3-bet.

[tyler_cracker]

flop cappers,

are you b/f the turn?

[bozlax]

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flop cappers,

are you b/f the turn?

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Unless it's an ace. Then I'll check behind and call one on the river.

[ckj]

I bet call the turn and hope for the board to pair (but not the 8). I think J8 is a decent part of his range and is more likely than a set. You have maybe 8 potential outs. I think the pot is too big to fold with that draw. Fold river though UI.

[BadBigBabar]

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Posting blind: if you've played the hand correctly to this point, and if it's really a decision, then the answer is probably fold.


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lol why do you even post this garbage

[Aaron W.]

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Posting blind: if you've played the hand correctly to this point, and if it's really a decision, then the answer is probably fold.


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lol why do you even post this garbage

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To prove that even Boz can be wrong sometimes... and he's willing to admit it.

[bozlax]

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Posting blind: if you've played the hand correctly to this point, and if it's really a decision, then the answer is probably fold.


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lol why do you even post this garbage

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To prove that even Boz can be wrong sometimes... and he's willing to admit it.

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Luckily, this time, I didn't have to. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Babar, if that really is you, wanna give me a situation where you really have a difficult decision to make with QQ on the turn, where you've played it properly on the previous streets, where your likely-best action ISN'T fold?