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Old 05-19-2007, 06:59 AM
AlfilRey AlfilRey is offline
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Default $25/50 PLO -- can I fold the river? Thoughts on earlier streets?

Villain is weak,tight, predictable and will rarely make a move. However, I don't think that the beginner's "panic bluff all-in" if he senses weakness is beyond him.
Given this, what do you guys think of this hand?

Btw, my image is fairly tight, and I think people believe I am not as capable of making big moves without the goods.

I am not sure if I can get away from this hand, but it's been bothering me. It seems like it's just $1500 down the drain.

note: RKESTON is good and very aggressive, he fires at a high % of pots, so I know more than likely he will be folding here.

PL $25/$50 Omaha - 2007
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: Kirderf ( $4,825 )
Seat 2: stripes ( $4,883.32 )
Seat 3: india ( $2,769 )
Seat 4: nimisi ( $3,172 )
Seat 5: R KESTON ( $28,385.48 )
Seat 6: HERO ( $4,107 )
R KESTON posts small blind [$25]
HERO posts big blind [$50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 3d, 4c, 4h, 3h ]
Kirderf folds
stripes calls [$50]
india folds
nimisi calls [$50]
R KESTON calls [$25]
HERO checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, 6c, 7h ]
R KESTON bets [$200]
HERO raises to [$720]
stripes calls [$720]
nimisi folds
R KESTON folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
HERO bets [$1,840]
stripes calls [$1,840]
** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]
HERO checks
stripes goes all-in
stripes bets [$2,273.32]
HERO calls [$1,497]
HERO goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [$776.32] to stripes
** Showdown **
stripes shows [ Kd, 7s, 7c, 6d ] full house, Sevens full of Sixes
HERO mucks [ 3d, 4c, 4h, 3h ]
** Hand Conclusion **
stripes wins $8,511 from main pot with full house, Sevens full of Sixes
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Old 05-19-2007, 08:44 AM
JP OSU JP OSU is offline
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Default Re: $25/50 PLO -- can I fold the river? Thoughts on earlier streets?

You have to call that river getting almost 5:1... This is really aggressive for bottom set tho... don't include results in your posts...
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Old 05-19-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: $25/50 PLO -- can I fold the river? Thoughts on earlier streets?

I wouldn't play bottom set so aggressive on this board. Esp after he calls your reraise, I think you could/should slowdown. A weak tight player won't call you down with worse imo. Once you bet the turn, your almost comitted stack wise on the river to call when your hand improves.

Why did you check the river? If you check it here, he'll bet anything that beats you, and if your going to call it anway, just bet the river in this spot.
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:14 PM
TheRempel TheRempel is offline
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Default Re: $25/50 PLO -- can I fold the river? Thoughts on earlier streets?

Because the only hands he beats may bluff but will probably not call a river bet.
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Old 05-19-2007, 02:20 PM
dickkemp dickkemp is offline
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Default Re: $25/50 PLO -- can I fold the river? Thoughts on earlier streets?

first their is something wrong with your post
if he posted small and you big you had position on him entire hand which means he checked the turn and you bet a large amount and then he just pushed the river.
and this omaha i dont see to many people pushing a straight into your flop raise and big bet on turn. anything he could possibly push there was a boat and you haveing the worst possible boat means you are beat. i dont agree with folding so dont bet the turn and let him lead into on the river. that way when he does lead into the river maybe he will thought you were stealing flop and the river bet will be much more likely to be a bluff.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:34 AM
JP OSU JP OSU is offline
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Default Re: $25/50 PLO -- can I fold the river? Thoughts on earlier streets?

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first their is something wrong with your post
if he posted small and you big you had position on him entire hand which means he checked the turn and you bet a large amount and then he just pushed the river.

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Reread the hand... get back to us...
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Old 05-20-2007, 03:10 AM
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Default Re: $25/50 PLO -- can I fold the river? Thoughts on earlier streets?

You way overplayed your hand. I would just call the flop and re-eval turn.
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:34 AM
AlfilRey AlfilRey is offline
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Default Re: $25/50 PLO -- can I fold the river? Thoughts on earlier streets?

People donīt seem to realise that

1. it wasnīt "just bottom set". I had the nut straight blockers too, so I was representing that, and fired the turn to build a pot I could fold out a higher set to on the river, in case thatīs what he did have.

2. if i check the turn, i give away that i do not have the straight. if i lead the turn, i am now representing either the flopped straight, or the wrap draw that hit. this makes it incredibly tough for him to call the river.

3. i also picked up a heart flush draw on the turn. spinoi says "re-eval turn". do you intend on folding? If he does have a higher set, well then I have a gutshot straight draw, flush draw, and an out to quads. with about 1/3 of the deck in likely outs if Iīm drawing, I canīt see myself check-folding this turn.
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