The Office Season 4 Ep 4 - Page 12

Assani Fisher · #**111** 10-20-2007, 01:34 AM

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Assani,

Quality, not quantity.

istewart,

I will stay in your mom forever.

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I realize this. Do you really think I'm arguing for Kevin, a character who probably has >5 lines per show, based upon quantity? Nearly every one of his lines is $$$$.

I remember laughing a few times at Michael trying to "act black" around Darryl, but honestly thats more Michael than Darryl. Perhaps you could tell me whats so funny about Darryl.

Assani Fisher · #**112** 10-20-2007, 01:36 AM

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I like the ep, best of the season.

I think Michael should have been vindicated a bit as a salesman in the telemarketing place like he's been previously, felt like he should have closed the deal where he was talking about the customer's family and stuff.

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Yeah this confused me as well since we've seen in the past that Michael, despite all his stupidity, is actually a great salesman which explains why he is the manager.

TheRempel · #**113** 10-20-2007, 01:53 AM

It is somewhat confusing but telemarketing is 100% about the quick sale. It's all about volume, and as we have seen in previous episodes, Micheal's sales tactics are mostly about developing a personal relationship with the customer, something he would not be able to do in that environment.

69sofine · #**114** 10-20-2007, 02:09 AM

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Assani,

Quality, not quantity.

istewart,

I will stay in your mom forever.

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I realize this. Do you really think I'm arguing for Kevin, a character who probably has >5 lines per show, based upon quantity? Nearly every one of his lines is $$$$.

I remember laughing a few times at Michael trying to "act black" around Darryl, but honestly thats more Michael than Darryl. Perhaps you could tell me whats so funny about Darryl.

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i always think of this whenever he says anything so its always funny
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-8FlE8UG3...ed&search=

evil twin · #**115** 10-20-2007, 04:43 AM

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the first half of this thread i couldn't believe what i was reading. thankfully vagos/nielso/sublime stepped in with common sense.

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This breaks various universal laws and therefore you must be wrong.

I loved the episode, the Michael and Jan scene where they finally talk was really touching. Just when they convince you Michael is a total fool and we start to dislike him properly they pull that out of the hat and we're back feeling sympathy for him.

His Boy Elroy · #**116** 10-20-2007, 07:12 AM

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This really surprises me, I think Michael is my least favorite character of anyone on the show tbh.

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My rankings:

1. Dwight
2. Jim
3. Pam
4. Michael
5. Kevin
6. Stanley
7. Andy
8. Creed
9. Kelly
10. Ryan
11. Toby
12. Jan
13. Angela
14. Oscar
15. Phyllis

Did I forget anyone(major characters only)?

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You forgot Meredith, but I'll just assume she's dead last anyway.

Yeti · #**117** 10-20-2007, 12:31 PM

btw, the reason i didn't go wild over the whomever scene is that it completely jars with the humour of the show. there has never been a scene written with that rapid fire dialogue from all the characters. i mean is this an office or a quentin tarantino film? you could tell it was written as an almost showoff piece. plus kevin delivered his line like a complete buffoon as always.

the powerpoint scene just before it was far superior.

Vagos · #**118** 10-20-2007, 12:38 PM

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I remember laughing a few times at Michael trying to "act black" around Darryl, but honestly thats more Michael than Darryl. Perhaps you could tell me whats so funny about Darryl.

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I think Darryl is better than Kevin, not because he maybe has more moments than Kevin but just because I appreciate more the moments he does have. He has a bigger role this season but in Season 3, ton of great Darryl scenes; the Darryl/Toby/Michael car ride to New York and Safety Training come to mind.

Kevin just becomes too cartoonish at times, and his talking heads should never ever make the final cut. I'd be hard pressed to think of a single Kevin talking head that I would point back to as a funny moment, after an episode was over. They're all misses.

PRE · #**119** 10-20-2007, 01:16 PM

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btw, the reason i didn't go wild over the whomever scene is that it completely jars with the humour of the show. there has never been a scene written with that rapid fire dialogue from all the characters. i mean is this an office or a quentin tarantino film? you could tell it was written as an almost showoff piece. plus kevin delivered his line like a complete buffoon as always.

the powerpoint scene just before it was far superior.

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I completely agree with everything you've said in this thread, from people overrating the episode to Darry being a far funnier character than Kevin (in fact I don't find Kevin funny at all).

I was a little shocked when I saw people considering this for the best episode ever, but chose not to say anything since I went on a rant about the show being not as good as it once was in the last episode thread.

For everyone saying how great this episode was, have you even watched the first 2 seasons? I'm having a tough time seeing how anyone could say this episode was the best of all time (let alone that whomever scene being the best scene of all time). It was a solid episode, don't get me wrong, but just the fact that episodes are now one hour long makes it tough enough to put them in the "best ever" category. It also seems like a lot of the stuff is too contrived, as Yeti mentioned with the whomever scene and the entire beat farm scene.

Dids · #**120** 10-20-2007, 02:15 PM

There's something odd about people disliking Kevin for the reasons that Kevin rules. He's supposed to be an annoying doofus. That's what a Kevin does.

Upon rewatching, this ep rules. Hard.

Yeti's right in that the whomever bit is pretty showoffy, but I still liked it. Mostly because it's a nice bit about how meetings like this can get off topic.