FTOPS #1: TT vs villian pf limp/call my raise ... rag flop

[xGREGORx]

New to the table, so no great reads. Preflop OK? Flop cbet OK? Can I call the CRAI? Thanks for the advice!


FullTiltPoker Game #3196304604: FTOPS Event #1 (22618705), Table 94 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:26:42 ET - 2007/08/08
Seat 1: (9,150)
Seat 2: (4,725)
Seat 3: (8,755)
Seat 4: (9,174)
Seat 5: (11,605)
Seat 6: (12,865)
Seat 7: (4,855)
Seat 8: VILLIAN (7,015)
Seat 9: HERO (5,950)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
2 folds, VILLIAN calls 240, HERO raises to 1,305, 5 folds, VILLIAN has 15 seconds left to act, VILLIAN calls 1,065

*** FLOP *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] (pot = 3195)
VILLIAN checks, HERO bets 2,000, VILLIAN has 15 seconds left to act, VILLIAN raises to 5,685, and is all in, HERO ???

[Foucault]

Probably raise a little less pre, but with an overpair and 2x pot on the flop, you're going broke.

[KneeCo]

Yea when I raise I make it like 1k straight pf.

I wouldn't call your flop bet a Cbet, and I'm paying him off with these stacks if beat.

[nath]

you'd better call the raise all in

raise a little less PF, don't be lazy and just use the "pot" button because it's there

you very often have villain drawing to 6 outs, imo

[betgo]

Villain almost always raises on this flop. You obviously have high cards and missed. Extremely easy call.

Preflop is obviously "bet pot" button, but I am not sure what is wrong with it. 4xBB is more standard, but why not raise the limper more?

[Todd Terry]

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you'd better call the raise all in

raise a little less PF, don't be lazy and just use the "pot" button because it's there

you very often have villain drawing to 6 outs, imo

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Agree with everything above, especially the bet pot comment. It took me a bit too long to figure out what hands would leave Villian with 6 outs, but I finally got it.

[sinderg]

yeah a folds really bad after betting that much. standard stack off.

also a good idea to think if your gonna call 3k more before betting 2k

[Rekwob]

4x pre, bet/call flop, ul if you lost

[betgo]

Can someone explain why 4xBB is better than the 5x bet pot bet? Don't you want the limper to fold or put in more money? With the antes, is it a bad result to take this preflop?

[Todd Terry]

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Can someone explain why 4xBB is better than the 5x bet pot bet? Don't you want the limper to fold or put in more money? With the antes, is it a bad result to take this preflop?

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Metagame: I never vary raise sizes with the strength of my hand preflop, unless stack sizes dictate something different. Hand specific: Both are big chunks of limper's stack, I don't think a good player is more likely to call 1K than the pot-sized raise.