Just moved up wana show some hands

wtfUmoron · #1 02-28-2007, 08:39 PM

Just moved up to 600NL and I feel that game is much harder or maybe I'm a bit scared of money so please criticise my play.

Hand ¹1. Villian is very agro saw him beting out nut flush draw, check raised me 2 times and I folded. His stats like 27/22 or something like that and AF total is like 5.2. Never saw him before.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($1859.83)
UTG ($753.70)
Hero ($775.25)
CO ($591)
Button ($341.10)
SB ($240)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
1 fold, Hero raises to $22, 3 folds, BB calls $16.

Flop: ($47) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $33, BB raises to $90, Hero calls $57.

Turn: ($227) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $150, Hero calls $775.25 (All-In), BB folds.

Final Pot: $1152.25

Hand ¹2 Same half crazy vilian.
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BB ($612.15)
Hero ($591)
MP ($386.62)
Button ($167.62)
SB ($906.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
Hero raises to $22, 1 fold, Button calls $22, 1 fold, BB calls $16.

Flop: ($69) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $50, Hero calls $50, Button folds.

Turn: ($169) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $120, Hero raises to $333, BB calls $606.15 (All-In), Hero calls $591 (All-In).

River: ($1819.15) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $1819.15
Board is drawy. Raise flop? If so how much? He showed TTT

Hand¹3
Oh man what was I thinking about... but anyway what is the best line here?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($591)
SB ($1127.80)
Hero ($659.15)
UTG ($414.08)
MP ($201.31)
CO ($600)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
3 folds, Button raises to $21, 1 fold, Hero raises to $60, Button calls $45.

Flop: ($135) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $111, Button calls $111.

Turn: ($357) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $333, Button calls $591 (All-In), Hero calls $81.

River: ($1362) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1362

Hand¹4
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UTG ($912.65)
MP ($1865.90)
CO ($572.35)
Hero ($2118.55)
SB ($982)
BB ($697.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
2 folds, CO raises to $24, Hero raises to $77, 2 folds, CO calls $53.

Flop: ($163) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $99, Hero raises to $299, CO calls $200.

Turn: ($761) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $111, Hero raises to $222, CO calls $572.35 (All-In).

River: ($1666.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1666.35

Hand¹ 5
My thought's were. I'm oop and there r 2 tight agro players after me and board is SO drawy so c/c line will be the best. When he fires on flop I put him on a pair of 8's or and overpair like 99 TT maybe 66 or 2 pairs 78. A guy who was on my left I think he had a draw since he just check after me and just called a bet.
When 2d 5 comes I thought that even if btn have 2 pairs they r no good anymore. Btw he fires instantly such a big amount why would he do it with a FH or good hand?
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Button ($459)
SB ($1161.90)
BB ($742.20)
Hero ($2656.80)
MP ($743.50)
CO ($1421.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
Hero raises to $22, MP calls $22, 1 fold, Button calls $22, 2 folds.

Flop: ($75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button bets $66, Hero calls $66, MP calls $66.

Turn: ($273) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button calls $459 (All-In), Hero calls $371, MP folds.

River: ($1103) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1103

He showed K8s

Hand¹6 He was fishy after the flop I duno why I called but still..
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SB ($1765.83)
BB ($672.10)
Hero ($905.65)
MP ($600)
CO ($402.10)
Button ($234.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
Hero raises to $22, 4 folds, BB calls $16.

Flop: ($47) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $33, BB calls $33.

Turn: ($113) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $88, BB calls $88.

River: ($289) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $222, Hero calls $222.

Final Pot: $733

Results in white below: 
BB has 4d 5d (straight, six high).
Hero has Ah Kd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins $733. 

Hand¹7. This hand is most difficult. My opponent is Dontdoitbro. I think he is solid good player. He only the 1 who make me think today. But I played him 1st time. He is like 28/22 after 450 hands.
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BB ($600)
UTG ($1144.40)
MP ($766.20)
Hero ($2942.80)
Button ($609.70)
SB ($1068.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
2 folds, Hero raises to $22, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $19, 1 fold.

Flop: ($50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $33, SB calls $33.

Turn: ($116) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $77, Hero raises to $222, SB calls $1065.50 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $1480.50

Results in white below: 
No showdown. SB wins $1480.50. 

Last hand. DonTDoITBRO I started to hate him.
I actually thought about check-raising river. But I maybe have no balls for such plays.
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Hero ($1122.30)
BB ($944.91)
Button ($519.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $3.
Button calls $6, Hero (poster) raises to $27, BB calls $24, Button folds.

Flop: ($66) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $44, BB calls $44.

Turn: ($154) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $122, BB calls $122.

River: ($398) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $222, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $620

Results in white below: 
BB doesn't show.
Outcome: BB wins $620. 
BTW Sry for bad english.

Hindsight2020 · #2 02-28-2007, 08:52 PM

Hand 1: Seems fine, given reads
Hand 2: I'd probably fold PF, but post-flop is standard
Hand 3: Terrible turn card. You don't beat anything except for a float, and this isn't exactly a float friendly board. I'd just c/f
Hand 4: I'd just call the flop without a lot of history. As played, just shove the turn
Hand 5: I'd probably bet the flop, but looks fine, as played.
Hand 6: Sometimes you can lay down the river, with reads, i'd call, otherwise
Hand 7: I think this was a good laydown, but I'd just call the turn.
Hand 8: decent line, although I might c/c the flop or turn. i don't really like a river c/r here, with your hand, and think it's closer to a c/c

dansalmo · #3 02-28-2007, 09:44 PM

Hero raises too often with crap hands out of position, and then goes too far with them. Big mistake folding the set to the all in raise. The way you played previously, someone could have easily went all in against you with a weeker hand.

You built a big pot with JJ and then had to let it go. Keep the pot small with such hands unless you flop a set.

You need a lot of work on your game. I suggest reading No Limit Holdem Theory and Practice.

catcher193 · #4 02-28-2007, 09:53 PM

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Hero raises too often with crap hands out of position, and then goes too far with them. Big mistake folding the set to the all in raise. The way you played previously, someone could have easily went all in against you with a weeker hand.

You built a big pot with JJ and then had to let it go. Keep the pot small with such hands unless you flop a set.

You need a lot of work on your game. I suggest reading No Limit Holdem Theory and Practice.

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lol

nh's your thoughts are ok and so are these hands, nothing stands out as terrible, I call with the set but I try to produce an image that makes it ok.
good luck with moving up.

Eagles · #5 02-28-2007, 10:00 PM

If I were you I'd delete this post and make a bunch of separate threads. Reading posts like this makes my eyes bleed.

That said

Hand 1: I probably 3bet the flop
Hand 2

f is fine, shove the turn that is a bad spot for the small raise.
Hand 3:Standard fine
Hand 4: call the flop shove the turn.
Hand 5: PLZ Bet the flop checking here is really bad
Hand 6:Fold rivedr
Hand 7: Sometimes I just call the turn bet as played folding is probably fine this looks like 45 a lot.
Hand 8: I probablly c/c turn.

Hindsight2020 · #6 02-28-2007, 10:03 PM

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Hand 3:Standard fine

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What does hero beat?

Can any of it ever call a shove?

If we're beat, we have between 4 and 0 outs.

Seems like a pretty clear/easy c/fold to me.

FiSheYe · #7 02-28-2007, 11:59 PM

Hand 1: Fold preflop. As played I think you're line against this specific player on that turn card is ok...
Hand 2: Fold preflop. As played it's okay, if he is capable of bluffing AI against your raise if you folded some hands against his moves before, a smaller raise might be superior but my normal line is to raise your amount or even more.
Hand 3: PF I would raise to 65+ flop bet is fine, turn card is terrible I wouldn't bet that much you cannot expect many worse hands to pay you off.. I think checking with the intention to either calling (given he bluffs a lot) or folding is superior..
Hand 4: PF raise is ok, maybe 80+. I like a flop call, if he is bluffing you are way ahead and might get more in, plus you can control the potsize depending on turn cards. This turn smells like he has KJ but with the size of the pot it's an easy call for you.

Hand 5: Bet this flop there are so many bad turn cards and giving your opponents a freecard is terrible. any 6,4, 8,9, T, heart, Q,K,A is terrible there are like 30cards you don't want to see. Checking the flop might underrepresent your hand and a weird guy might bet the turn again with a worse hand, giving you headache what to do.

Hand 6: I like a bigger flop bet, you are way ahead of his range and should play for stacks on this flop.. turn doesn't change that much I cannot see a hand expect for 56s which actually got there.. River is tough.. it's hard to put him on a 5 or 2pair but on the other hand this is Partypoker so without specific read you might fold.. but there are players out there, capable of betting a worse king, busted flushdraw or any other [censored].. so I guess calling and folding are both possible..

Hand 7: effective stacks around 175bb I would bet flop 40+ and raise the turn 3-3,5x his amount. Go broke there 100% of the time.

Hand 8: hmm dunno what line is best here. If he is solid I cannot see him calling the turn with a flushdraw or any worse pair than yours. I would put him on a queen and fold.. if he is a very bad player and bluffs frequently with busted fd's or pairs smaller than QQ then c/c river might be better. You might play the turn weaker to avoid having huge pot's.. Betting a smaller amount on the turn will give fd's no odds to call and unless you're lines are not balanced you lose less money longterm imho.