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Old 07-29-2006, 01:22 AM
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Default I guess I have to assume he isn\'t brain dead? (party 109$)

A few posts this week have made me realize that I have been playing middle limits too much. I rarely make a semi-big fold, mostly because I dont control the pot well enough, and end up pricing myself in.

Party 109$ 2K added. Started around 500 runners, about 350 left.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
10 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to t200</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls t100 <font color="#aaaaaa">(pot was t350)</font>.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t450, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 bets t275</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t650</font>, MP2 calls t375 <font color="#aaaaaa">(pot was t1375)</font>.

Here, he gave me odds to call. But I am willing to go to the felt with this if I must, and being out of position makes it tough to get full value if the flush comes in. I go for the C/R semi-bluff. The problem being, I am building a hefty pot OOP if he calls, and my hand value changes dramatically on most turns.

thoughts?

There is more, as you guess, just trying to go street by street
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: I guess I have to assume he isn\'t brain dead? (party 109$)

stack sizes?
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:51 AM
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thought converter would grab them.
I have 4K, he has me covered by about 1000
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: I guess I have to assume he isn\'t brain dead? (party 109$)

i c/r bigger and shove turn. (like 1k should do)
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: I guess I have to assume he isn\'t brain dead? (party 109$)

Do you expect him to fold a pair here?
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Old 07-29-2006, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: I guess I have to assume he isn\'t brain dead? (party 109$)

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Do you expect him to fold a pair here?

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Not really, but a pair has a hard time calling again if I lead the turn. (unless its AJ or better), so the check raise effectively builds a pot that will probably be mine anyway.

My real problem is that the size of my raise made the turn akward, no matter what hits.
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Old 07-29-2006, 03:16 AM
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Ya I would just b/3b. If you CR then make it so that you have one PSB left on turn, easy push.
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Old 07-29-2006, 03:17 AM
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yea, thats why i like raising more. also because you barely more than minraised him.
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Old 07-29-2006, 03:49 AM
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But, doesnt a bigger raise let weak pairs and something like AQ off too easy. I realize I am behind, but without them nailing the turn, it is my pot.
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Old 07-29-2006, 06:42 AM
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I assume your read on him is weak/thight, and that a big bet can take him away. Then I`d raise somewhat more to build a pot worth stealing. If you are playing the hand for its ev, then you are most likely behind to his range and if its fe you want I dont get the raise. If you play it for a gambol, why not push? If he is a calling station type, Id just call and hope for the flush to materialize on turn and let go if no other draws/hits appear.
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