***Official Stars Regs Thread*** - Page 13

BrassMonkey · #**121** 04-11-2007, 01:18 AM

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What am I missing?

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the total rake paid at low limits is 2.4 BB/100 hands not the rakeback.

I have read (and calculated) that platin is like 22-23% RB and supernova is about 27%

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Is that all the bump you get from Platinum to Supernova? Weak - guess I won't hurry to Supernova...

danzasmack · #**122** 04-11-2007, 01:24 AM

i don't understand how it's classified as rb if i don't get $

milesdyson · #**123** 04-11-2007, 01:28 AM

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What am I missing?

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the total rake paid at low limits is 2.4 BB/100 hands not the rakeback.

I have read (and calculated) that platin is like 22-23% RB and supernova is about 27%

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Is that all the bump you get from Platinum to Supernova? Weak - guess I won't hurry to Supernova...

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It should be more than a 4-5% increase. In fact, I almost guarantee it is. First of all, you get a better bonus once you hit supernova. Secondly, you earn FPPs 28% faster (4.5/3.5 = 1.28). So if "rakeback" at platinum were 22%, "rakeback" at supernova would be 28%, which is already a 6% increase. On top of that, each FPP is worth more at supernova, so you're probably looking at a 7-8% difference between the two levels.

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i don't understand how it's classified as rb if i don't get $

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Buying bonuses with your FPPs.

BrassMonkey · #**124** 04-11-2007, 01:41 AM

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Buying bonuses with your FPPs.

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Does it piss you guys off that you have to play a whole bunch more hands to clear your bonuses that you've earned? The first time I saw that, I was like, "wtf?!". Annoying... I guess it's no big deal to you guys that play 100k hands per month, but at 20k hands per month, it sucks.

Schwatt · #**125** 04-11-2007, 03:30 AM

Stars has the lowest rake on the internet. Looking at PT, I pay 9.7 cents per hand at 6-max, and 7.1 cents per hand at Full Ring.

I am Supernova, and at 2/4 6-max I earn about 2.75 cents per dealt hand using the bonuses you can purchase with FPP's. This works out to between 25-38% RB at 2/4 depending on the average pot sizes, and whether you play 6-max or full ring.

Yes other sites with rakeback have possibly higher earn rate per hour with their higher rake, but the table selection is much worse.

milesdyson · #**126** 04-11-2007, 05:06 AM

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Buying bonuses with your FPPs.

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Does it piss you guys off that you have to play a whole bunch more hands to clear your bonuses that you've earned? The first time I saw that, I was like, "wtf?!". Annoying... I guess it's no big deal to you guys that play 100k hands per month, but at 20k hands per month, it sucks.

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Can someone else comment on this? I didn't think clearing these took very many hands. Either way the points you earn while clearing still generate more FPPs, so it's not a problem.

Now a change of topics because this is kind of lame.

This hand right here demonstrates Poker Stars play bad get there software at its finest.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, Button caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Button has Jc As (straight, queen high).
Hero has Qd Jh (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Button wins 10.75 BB. Hero wins 10.75 BB. 

Also, if any of you played with me on 4/10/2007 or 4/11/2007 and saw anything bad, please let me know. I played my best and lost another 60bb.

F Paulsson · #**127** 04-11-2007, 01:38 PM

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LAG/luckboxvsme = FPau

where FP stood for fancy play:P

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While I can easily accept the critique that I have a tendency towards FPS (it's how I tilt, apparently), I only have about 450 hands on you. I haven't figured out a way to sort "only my hands that where you were dealt in" so I can't get a good picture of how you and I have played against each other, but looking at the first 30 or so hands where you went to showdown (and I therefore know your hole cards) it's clear that you're calling me down very light. I'm guessing I must have done a lot of something during these 450 hands to warrant that, but I'm not so sure what.

I'd like to know though; especially if it's something I still do. My note on you suggests that you should be value bet on the river.

Cheers,
FP

sethypooh21 · #**128** 04-11-2007, 01:44 PM

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Buying bonuses with your FPPs.

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Does it piss you guys off that you have to play a whole bunch more hands to clear your bonuses that you've earned? The first time I saw that, I was like, "wtf?!". Annoying... I guess it's no big deal to you guys that play 100k hands per month, but at 20k hands per month, it sucks.

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Can someone else comment on this? I didn't think clearing these took very many hands. Either way the points you earn while clearing still generate more FPPs, so it's not a problem.

Now a change of topics because this is kind of lame.

This hand right here demonstrates Poker Stars play bad get there software at its finest.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, Button caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Button has Jc As (straight, queen high).
Hero has Qd Jh (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Button wins 10.75 BB. Hero wins 10.75 BB. 

Also, if any of you played with me on 4/10/2007 or 4/11/2007 and saw anything bad, please let me know. I played my best and lost another 60bb.

[/ QUOTE ]God, I feel the sameway - I'm still chafing from the 30 BB pot I lost to a guy who capped QT pf/flop/turn with no pair/no draw against AA and hit running tens...I'm running like .25 bb/100 over my last 10k and it would be frustrating if I weren't basically playing on a freeroll right now...

chezlaw · #**129** 04-11-2007, 06:21 PM

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Have you guys played vs. pookguy at all? I've found him to be a pain in the ass.

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Definite pain in the ass, tad overag imo.

Here's a hand where I'm reluctant to take more initiative as I feel he will correctly fold a lot and probably bet the river a lot but it still seems a bit weak. His W$SH is 48% but only 600 hands.

pookguy open-raises button, I 3 bet AA from SB, BB folds, pookguy calls.

Flop: 853 rainbow

I bet he calls.

Turn: 8

I bet he raises, I call

River: 7

I check-call wondering if I should check-raise.

chez

kid canepa · #**130** 04-15-2007, 06:44 AM

hey i'm new here