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Old 04-30-2007, 12:22 AM
beef1020 beef1020 is offline
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Default bubble play at 6.50

Comments please, should I raise, fold pf or is push good?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2480)
Button (t4280)
SB (t4080)
BB (t2660)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t2480 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t4080 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t6860) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)


Turn: (t6860) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)


River: (t6860) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
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Old 04-30-2007, 12:25 AM
Waco1910 Waco1910 is offline
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Default Re: bubble play at 6.50

Fold pf
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Old 04-30-2007, 12:31 AM
Acein8ter Acein8ter is offline
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Default Re: bubble play at 6.50

Raise t600 pf... If called, Cbet minimum of 1/2 pot, push turn.
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Old 04-30-2007, 01:05 AM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: bubble play at 6.50

I'd fold preflop.
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Old 04-30-2007, 01:20 AM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: bubble play at 6.50

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Raise t600 pf... If called, Cbet minimum of 1/2 pot, push turn.

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So what's your advice without the complete hand history?

Fold pf.
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Old 04-30-2007, 01:24 AM
DiCkO DiCkO is offline
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Default Re: bubble play at 6.50

Can someone explain why you are all folding PF? What size BB would be required (with same stacks) for this to be a push.

Is there really any room to be raising (ie not AI) PF? It seems this is clear push fold territory here.
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Old 04-30-2007, 01:24 AM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: bubble play at 6.50

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Raise t600 pf... If called, Cbet minimum of 1/2 pot, push turn.

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raising to 600 really sucks here. If you really feel the table is right for a standard raise (re. tight), then raise to 500 not 600. Then a c-bet will cost you less, and you will still have a fighting chance if you have to give up on the hand.

But, I don't really like opening here with QJo at a low stakes table where Ax, Kx, any pp and any suited cards are the nutz and can't be folded preflop.
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Old 04-30-2007, 01:25 AM
allhappythoughts allhappythoughts is offline
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Default Re: bubble play at 6.50

You and BB are fairly even...You can find much better spots to shove than here. Just let it go.
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: bubble play at 6.50

fold pre
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Old 04-30-2007, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: bubble play at 6.50

If the big stacks don't know how to play the bubble I'd raise to 500.
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