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#11
03-10-2007, 05:34 AM
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Re: $33s - Look I folded QQ preflop!!!!!
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Why fold? even if you knew he had AA, you must call 160 more preflop. ToT [/ QUOTE ] You are reading the HH wrong. EDIT: atleast I thought I'd have to call t320 chips when I was playing the hand. Bleh. 
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#12
03-10-2007, 06:30 AM
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Re: $33s - Look I folded QQ preflop!!!!!
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[ QUOTE ] Why fold? even if you knew he had AA, you must call 160 more preflop. ToT [/ QUOTE ] You are reading the HH wrong. EDIT: atleast I thought I'd have to call t320 chips when I was playing the hand. Bleh. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, wherever this hand history is from it is confusing because of the way his raise is shown. I've seen this format before and it always screws everyone up.
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#13
03-10-2007, 06:31 AM
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Re: $33s - Look I folded QQ preflop!!!!!
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Yeah, wherever this hand history is from it is confusing because of the way his raise is shown. I've seen this format before and it always screws everyone up. [/ QUOTE ] It's from Party Poker. Currently there is no working HH converter for Party.
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#14
03-10-2007, 01:15 PM
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Re: $33s - Look I folded QQ preflop!!!!!
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[ QUOTE ] Why fold? even if you knew he had AA, you must call 160 more preflop. ToT [/ QUOTE ] You are reading the HH wrong. EDIT: atleast I thought I'd have to call t320 chips when I was playing the hand. Bleh. [/ QUOTE ] Karp, Always enjoy your posts .... I play around the same buyins as you and I remember posting a thread awhile ago that I instantly thought of when I saw your post: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post8391086 I call for the set if its 140 more, if its 340 and you still have a solid stack (in this case - untouched) early I have made the same laydown after countless AK (or AQs, AJ) beatings vs TAG regulars, as well as the limp/reraise which some days seems to always occur when I have KK, QQ.
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#15
03-10-2007, 01:30 PM
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Re: $33s - Look I folded QQ preflop!!!!!
Have played a lot with this guy at the 55s. 90% sure his range here is not more than QQ+ and maybe AK.
Good laydown!
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#17
03-10-2007, 02:57 PM
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Re: $33s - Look I folded QQ preflop!!!!!
don't like the fold.
if you think he truly is that nitty and has you beat, you still have odds to call for set value.
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#18
03-10-2007, 03:09 PM
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Re: $33s - Look I folded QQ preflop!!!!!
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don't like the fold. if you think he truly is that nitty and has you beat, you still have odds to call for set value. [/ QUOTE ] Again, it's not a miniraise. Villain raises t320, he does not raise to t320.
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#19
03-11-2007, 12:17 AM
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Re: $33s - Look I folded QQ preflop!!!!!
I play it the same (with the info that the raise was to 480 of course). You're not quite getting odds to call even if he has KK/AA 100% of the time, felts it post 100% of the time, the SB never foolishly allins, and you don't count set over set. I do think he has KK/AA the vast majority of the time here, but it's only worse for you if he doesn't have it 100%, since you definitely can't 4bet AI against his range and it just means even if the odds were slightly better you still couldn't call for set value.
I don't think limping pre is without its place, but against an unknown at this buyin level I think you'd be missing a lot of value.
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