AA facing heat

[orange]

Villan is a TAG. He's on alot of my tables, he's pretty aggro and has been active at this table. He's gotten his stack from isolating this retard, I've gotten mine from 2 large hands (AA on blank board played for stacks and a set v. a 50bb stack).

I don't have a great read on his specific tendencies, he seems to be semi-tricky. He probably views me as a Tighter TAG.

200NL 6max

$500 effective

PF: Hero opens $7 UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], all fold to villan in the SB who calls $6. BB dumps, HU to the flop.

($16) Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villan checks, Hero bets $13, Villan check/raises to $45, Hero...?

I'll post latter action if this generates any discussion.

[Suwalski]

I think this is a pretty easy call, board is drawy, but not THAT drawheavy, it's baiscally a rainbow flop, and if we 3bet flop we're not getting any action from hands we beat. Furthermore we're pretty deep and this will be a good spot to excercise potcontrol.

Turn and river will be a real bitch to play btw. I guess that's why you made the thread [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[orange]

Villan is a TAG. He's on alot of my tables, he's pretty aggro and has been active at this table. He's gotten his stack from isolating this retard, I've gotten mine from 2 large hands (AA on blank board played for stacks and a set v. a 50bb stack).

I don't have a great read on his specific tendencies, he seems to be semi-tricky. He probably views me as a Tighter TAG.

200NL 6max

$500 effective

PF: Hero opens $7 UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], all fold to villan in the SB who calls $6. BB dumps, HU to the flop.

($16) Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villan checks, Hero bets $13, Villan check/raises to $45, Hero calls $32.

($106) Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Villan bets $88, Hero...?

[Ganon]

Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Tough spot this deep but I think you're being taken to V-town. There is obviously no room for anything but fold or call and I think you have to go for fold.

[primate]

I call the flop raise every time. Any notes on how he plays his sets? I think this is very important. Many TAGS donkbet their sets. This is what it looks like to me, the fact he's firing again.

[Ganon]

Salut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

In case I was being misunderstood: I meant fold on the turn not the flop.

[orange]

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I call the flop raise every time. Any notes on how he plays his sets? I think this is very important. Many TAGS donkbet their sets. This is what it looks like to me, the fact he's firing again.

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no notes, i think he would typically c/r them. i think stacks mean alot here, i think 100bb deep he may c/c flop and c/r turn (or donk it) but chose to c/r the flop due to deeper stacks.

so we have a few folds and a few call turn/fold river.

[luckybacon]

he does not have overpairs here i wouldnt think.

Some people def like to play hands trickier when they are this deep and represent sets (such as myself). At these stakes I would think you call this bet and fold to any more river heat. I really dont think hes triple barrelling you after a turn call and I think he gives up here most of the time on the river.

Note: I very rarely like a turn call fold river line if board doesnt change durastically or anything. I think this is a good spot for it

[Up-grey-de]

Since you do not have any great reads on him, I would call the flop raise and then revaluate turn. If he keeps firing I would give him cred and fold, until I know more about him.
One thing that is pretty important is to know his preflop reraising range. Some people like to call with 10/JJ/QQ and raise flop. If you discover that he is one of these types, I´d push obv. But for know I´d say call flop and fold turn if he keeps firing hard.

[jc1418]

still trying to think about this hand, everone tends to think he has a set and i disagree. this is a tuf spot. Its a good baord for him to c/r air and mix in his sets if he's smart. Being that he's TAG and you opened UTG I'd be inclined to take 56 out of his range. Its tuf because he is deepstacked might play something like 56s but I think it is in the very ass end of his range especially oop and if he is straightforward. Another interesting point is that this is a good spot for him to smooth call a large pair outta the blinds. Depends what you know his preflop tendencies to be. I really would not worry about him turning a straight. If you know that he would reraise all his large pairs pf, then take those outta his range as well. So depending on his preflop tendencies you should be able to weight his range toward air/set/overpair. I think we need more info on his preflop tendencies to analyze this properly. This is a good board to checkraise and follow through with a turn bet especially if hes aggro. Thing is you def get bluffed in this spot more than you assume. If he fires that turn with air, I believe hes going to fire a lot of rivers that complete draws. If you call this turn, I do not think you can fold the river to a bet. If hes decent he knows that on the turn you have to be holding an overpair b/c your not floating the flop with air to call the turn again. Basically comes down to how straightforward and aggro he is. If hes not tricky Im with shpanko and you gotta fold this turn. If you call, then call river. But his preflop style will give you enough information as to whether he can have a hand here or not. JJ-KK cud be in his range. Also if he is aggro and thinking wud you ever consider 4 betting this flop small, leaving him a nice amount to push over the top?