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Old 06-20-2006, 08:49 PM
Delphin Delphin is offline
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Default Steal attempt with 66, fire second barrel?

BB is 57/0/0.4

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (3.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero ?

Turn and river advice appreciated. I assume preflop and flop are standard. On the turn, should I bet to try and represent the Ace? On the river as played, should I show down my pair?
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Old 06-20-2006, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Steal attempt with 66, fire second barrel?

I almost always bet the turn here when the ace hits. Bad players like the BB always assume the stealer has an ace in his hand so when you continue betting after it hits the BB will fold a lot of these turns. So the turn should be a bet/fold (fold if c/r'ed which seems very unlikely from this player) and check behind the river. If he donks the river then you just have to fold but I think bet turn check behind river is your best play.
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Old 06-20-2006, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: Steal attempt with 66, fire second barrel?

Yeah, you can bet the turn, which will represent the ace like you say, although that "representing" part is unlikely to do any good against this guy. He'll call again with a gutshot like 76, for instance, and he won't fold any pair either. (Edit: He may now fold a hand like K9, though, which is part of the reason to bet.)

Still, there's no real reason to assume you don't have the best hand -- until you get checkraised, that is (which, from the looks of those stats, will not happen often).

When I bet the turn, I'd be doing so with the intention of checking the river behind on anything but a 6.

As played, I think it's okay to fold the river against this guy in this small pot. He probably has an ace (or a 3).
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: Steal attempt with 66, fire second barrel?

Fire 2, manson!
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: Steal attempt with 66, fire second barrel?

Yeah, very easy turn bet. His PF and flop calls could mean literally anything with those stats. No reason to assume you're beat at all, and you could definately extract some value from the huge range of hands he calls with that you beat. Bet.
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Old 06-21-2006, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Steal attempt with 66, fire second barrel?

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I almost always bet the turn here when the ace hits. Bad players like the BB always assume the stealer has an ace in his hand so when you continue betting after it hits the BB will fold a lot of these turns. So the turn should be a bet/fold (fold if c/r'ed which seems very unlikely from this player) and check behind the river. If he donks the river then you just have to fold but I think bet turn check behind river is your best play.

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Old 06-21-2006, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Steal attempt with 66, fire second barrel?

I agree that I should have bet the river and I regretted checking behind immediately, which is why I chose to post this hand. I think betting the turn and folding to any further aggression is the best play. Thanks for the advice.

Results:

I called the river bet and villain showed T6o. MHING
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Old 06-21-2006, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: Steal attempt with 66, fire second barrel?

that A is awesome for you. fold a better hand. do it!
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Old 06-21-2006, 10:08 PM
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Default Re: Steal attempt with 66, fire second barrel?

Bet the turn, fold the river.
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Old 06-21-2006, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: Steal attempt with 66, fire second barrel?

You're almost never folding a better hand. You bet the turn for protection/value when you're ahead.
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