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Old 09-17-2007, 04:43 PM
DaSpade DaSpade is offline
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Default Re: PL $1/2 - clean up outs, or....?

If we pot the flop and get repotted, what is the plan? - both HU and 3way?

(The hand ranges might be way off since I played so passively.)

pokenum -o qd 6d 7s 8h - kh ks jh td - 5h 6s ad 2d -- 5c 7d kd
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing 5c Kd 7d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7s Qd 6d 8h 115 17.27 545 81.83 6 0.90 0.177
Ks Td Kh Jh 409 61.41 257 38.59 0 0.00 0.614
6s Ad 2d 5h 136 20.42 524 78.68 6 0.90 0.209

pokenum -o qd 6d 7s 8h - 8s qs ad td - ah 6h 8c 9c -- 5c 7d kd
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing 5c Kd 7d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7s Qd 6d 8h 139 20.87 416 62.46 111 16.67 0.292
Qs 8s Ad Td 332 49.85 334 50.15 0 0.00 0.498
9c 8c Ah 6h 84 12.61 471 70.72 111 16.67 0.20

pokenum -o qd 6d 7s 8h - 8s as kh kc - ad 4h 4c 2d -- 5c 7d kd
Omaha Hi: 666 enumerated boards containing 5c Kd 7d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7s Qd 6d 8h 88 13.21 578 86.79 0 0.00 0.132
As 8s Kc Kh 402 60.36 264 39.64 0 0.00 0.604
4c Ad 2d 4h 176 26.43 490 73.57 0 0.00 0.264

HU:

vs top set - we are 40:60 dog
vs NFD - a coin flip
vs top set + NFD - 18:82

On the turn, I really felt that UTG had a strong hand - may be top set vs which we are 35:65 dog. Looks like the turn needs to be repotted to try make it HU.

I am still not sure of the flop though. Are'nt we crushed by the hands that reraise us?
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:08 PM
CrushinFelt CrushinFelt is offline
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Default Re: PL $1/2 - clean up outs, or....?

As played this is a pretty easy dump. As good as it looks, you ahve no idea what outs are good for you or what aren't.

Popping this flop is totally standard. Our hand plays better with more money in the pot as long as the NFD isn't tagging along somewhere, which is why you have to either raise this flop or be willing to dump this turn.
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