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Old 09-11-2007, 11:40 PM
cocarondelle cocarondelle is offline
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Default 10/20 JJ overpaire in RR pot , monotone board...

Villain is playing 17/15/3, doesn't reraise light (with or out of positon), has been playing rather straightforward.

I am seen as Loose aggressive, putting constant pressure in the pots I m playing, and am running 25/19/3.
I got caught a few times bluffing in medium pots, I am also winning on the 2 tables where villain and myself sit at.


Villain has 2000, I cover.


I raise JsJd UTG+1 to 70, all fold,

Villain (BB) reraise to 230,

I call.

flop T52, all clubs.

Villain bets 300.

Hero???
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:08 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 JJ overpaire in RR pot , monotone board...

Fold (not close)
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Old 09-12-2007, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 JJ overpaire in RR pot , monotone board...

supereasy fold.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:04 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 JJ overpaire in RR pot , monotone board...

Call flop, if he's still betting turn let it go, if not try to get to a showdown. Not calling any more bets after the flop though.

Kirk
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 JJ overpaire in RR pot , monotone board...

with Jc call, without fold
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 JJ overpaire in RR pot , monotone board...

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with Jc call, without fold

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really? why?
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 JJ overpaire in RR pot , monotone board...

Everybody who's saying this is a fold on the flop should also be saying this is a fold preflop since you can't call for set value here.

I would call this flop and fold to further agression.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 JJ overpaire in RR pot , monotone board...

This is full ring? If so fold (but I never fold), definitely don't fold in 6 max.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 JJ overpaire in RR pot , monotone board...

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with Jc call, without fold

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really? why?

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because its close already and the jack high flushdraw which is good sometimes makes the difference imo.
note that when a club comes on the turn it often goes check-check even if he has a higher club, so the hand is pretty easy to play

i think the main problem here is that there are a lot of cards where u just cant take any more heat (any club,A,K or Q) and almost no chance to improve your hand
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 JJ overpaire in RR pot , monotone board...

also this is 6-max, so folding this preflop is not an option as even a tight reraising range probably includes AK,AQ,TT
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