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Old 08-14-2007, 05:12 AM
sosorry sosorry is offline
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I keep losing every big pot, when I review the hands later and calculate the odds at twodimes.net, my monies are always going in as the favorite... but people always catch the cards they need. I'm ready to giveup at this game because I can't stand losing so much to retards calling me down againsnt my obvious hands and catching miracles.

So far I've lost big pots with the following odds:
91% to 9% x2
82% to 18%
70% to 30%
and a few others where i was a favorite but not by much...

This is at 25$ buyin pl omahaaha.... anyone got any advice or kind words?
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Old 08-14-2007, 05:28 AM
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Default Re: getting discouraged

10,000 hands will balance out your fluctuations. Take a few days off and play when you feel comfortable.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:07 AM
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Default Re: getting discouraged

what the advice you need here?

go to the church and pray
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:08 AM
mixmastermattyk mixmastermattyk is offline
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Default Re: getting discouraged

I've been feeling a bit the same lately.
When everything seems to be going wrong, your confidence takes a big hit. Confidence is a seriously underated part of the game. Low confidence means you start second guessing yourself, and not making the right aggressive moves like you normally would.

I had about an 8-10 buyin downswing over only a few thousand hands, and just when I was picking it up, I lose a 400BB pot and 250BB stack to the superfish getting the money in as a 70% favourite. Another guy calls off 150 with a pure gutshot against my flush draw + wrap, hits a 2 outer and all of a sudden, I'm back at the bottom of my downswing again.

Anyway, I did what you did, checked PTO, twodimes, and confirmed that I was getting my money in good and getting coolered a lot of the time. I also found a couple of spots where I could definitely improve, as well. And you know, as long as you're getting your money in good, the numbers tell us that EVENTUALLY it will even out and right itself.

Slugging it out till then can suck, and if you're low on confidence you might not even be playing the winning style you used to. If you need to set a few arbitrary goals that you can achieve to get your confidence back (like "I'll stop playing when I'm up 1 buyin" or something like that), just so you can get that feeling back. Otherwise take a break for a week or so and come back fresh.

Good luck and keep at it.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:17 AM
mixmastermattyk mixmastermattyk is offline
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Default Re: getting discouraged

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what the advice you need here?

go to the church and pray

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Lol, reminds me of last week when I was at the casino. I'm the biggest nit when it comes to house-edge games, so I'm sitting at the $10 minimum bet Casino War table (highest card wins). Sitting next to this other young group of guys and one of them has a nice little stack of about $300 that he'd run up from like $50. He puts down about $100 and gets a tie with the dealer, so they go to war - double up their bets and the dealer gives him a 2, meaning any card higher than a 2 and the dealer takes the $200 he's now wagered. The whole table groans/laughs in agony. Dealer says "you can still win if we tie again" and proceeds to flip over a 2 for himself. The whole table goes nuts (including me and my friends and we don't even know the guy). The dealer says "you are so lucky" and the guy replies with "mate, it's cos I go to church every Sunday" which he then quickly follows up with "who's up for the strippers?!". Gambling brilliance at it's finest. Probably not as funny reading it, but I just thought I'd share it.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: getting discouraged

I have been on a few 20+ buyin downswings in the past six months. As long as you are not tilting, playing well, and getting your money in good, it will turn around.

Just be properly bankrolled and it wont hurt as much.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:11 AM
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lol as if its easy to not lose your head. omaha is the worst if youre on a downswing, imo, because of the temptation to play every pot or to attempt to bluff scare cards or reluctance to fold sets on the turn when straights hit etc. there are just so many different things to take into account in every hand, if youre confidence is off its probably unbeatable.

perhaps shortstacking would be easier.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: getting discouraged

the mental aspect of poker is as tough as any professional sport and i personally liken it to golf - you can play the perfect round and still hit all the divots, rattle the holes, and catch the bad weather in the afternoon after your opponents have shot 5 under in brilliant sunshine in the morning

the point is that there are many professional golfers with more talent than Tiger Woods, but he is the strongest by far mentally and physically and thats why hes consistantly the best in the world
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:38 AM
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the point is that there are many professional golfers with more talent than Tiger Woods

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hmmm. I understand your point but this is way off I think.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: getting discouraged

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the point is that there are many professional golfers with more talent than Tiger Woods

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hmmm. I understand your point but this is way off I think.

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agree to disagree then - i would say Sergio Garcia has better hand eye co-ordination than Woods and a much more natural swing (case point when Woods spent a year rebuilding his swing and didnt win a major that year, 2002ish??)

Garcia dosent have Woods mental toughness however, witness this years Open, where i thought he was desperatly unlucky, but would Woods have gone on to win from that position?? almost certainly

Woods is definatly a role model for anyone looking for the definative pro, and will eventually be regarded at the greatest player to have played the game
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