anyone who is reasonable at poker, please read and comment

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At NL200 and lower, a PFR under 10% is a good way to play.


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you can do well, but its leaving a lot of money on the table

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What do you base that opinion on?

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nearly all of the very good 1/2 players that moved up have 10+ pfr

its possible I'm wrong, but I'm going to get some money on fulltilt and find out

[Smart Money]

See you at $1/$2 then.

[Acevader]

I think at NL$200 on FT its a bit of a balancing act. 5% PFR is too low for FR IMHO but I also think that 15% is generally too-high. Simply put you will find yourself playing a lot of marginal hands/situations and often out of position. You'd need absolutely immaculate post-flop play to ensure you don't write off all of your preflop gains derived from a more aggressive raising game through post-flop mistakes. Personally, I think in general somewhere in the region of 8-12 PFR plays well on these tables. You still get a degree or respect, you usually have position in a raised pot (if you are picking off limps, etc) and you still benefit from the more aggro preflop play without getting yourself into too many trick post-flop spots.

I still can't decide on pocket pairs. By limping along with them you see more flops and get more opportunity to hit a set. Usually there are more opponents so more chance someone will stick around. However, by raising them you give yourself more options (such as taking it with a cbet or peeling free turn), you inflate the pot for when you hit a set but the flipside is you take less flops. I'm not sure if the value of seeing flops with pairs cheap to set mine outweighs the value of taking down blinds/limps preflop and not even having a flop.

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At NL200 and lower, a PFR under 10% is a good way to play.


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you can do well, but its leaving a lot of money on the table

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What do you base that opinion on?

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I have not seen anyone with a passive style preflop win big at MSNL. The big winners at higher levels are 15/12, 18/14, 20/16, even 24/17, but I haven't seen guys who are 20/5 who win at a high clip at 2/4 and higher.

There are just so many advantages to raising preflop that the average small stakes player is not aware of.

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At NL200 and lower, a PFR under 10% is a good way to play.


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you can do well, but its leaving a lot of money on the table

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What do you base that opinion on?

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I have not seen anyone with a passive style preflop win big at MSNL. The big winners at higher levels are 15/12, 18/14, 20/16, even 24/17, but I haven't seen guys who are 20/5 who win at a high clip at 2/4 and higher.

There are just so many advantages to raising preflop that the average small stakes player is not aware of.

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Does anyone who plays NL400 have a substantial # of hands with rdegs21(sp?). I have him playing 15/6 over 10kish hands, and in my database he is a substantial winner.

[guaranteedBluff]

a couple of things stand out to me:

1) your WWSF% seems low. i play ~same preflop as you and have a slightly higher cont bet %, and subsequently a higher WWSF%

2) it appears if you play out of the BB, you are always 3betting. consider calling, c/ring many flops versus aggressive pf players.

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At NL200 and lower, a PFR under 10% is a good way to play.


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you can do well, but its leaving a lot of money on the table

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What do you base that opinion on?

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I have not seen anyone with a passive style preflop win big at MSNL. The big winners at higher levels are 15/12, 18/14, 20/16, even 24/17, but I haven't seen guys who are 20/5 who win at a high clip at 2/4 and higher.

There are just so many advantages to raising preflop that the average small stakes player is not aware of.

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Does anyone who plays NL400 have a substantial # of hands with rdegs21(sp?). I have him playing 15/6 over 10kish hands, and in my database he is a substantial winner.

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I have a ton of hands with him. I'm pretty sure he is one of the bigger winners. He manipulates his image bigtime vs the regs so I don't really play him as though he's a 15/6 from LP.

[Renton]

rdegs is pretty much terrible imo

but then again im apparently b'ing eee at the games

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I have him playing 15/6 over 10kish hands, and in my database he is a substantial winner.


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90/50/2 guys can be substantial winners over 10k hands, the sample is nearly worthless

[novel20]

Rento, what does it mean by "reasonable" at poker?