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Old 09-13-2007, 03:42 PM
pdoran10 pdoran10 is offline
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Villain has been splashing around and i have took a few pots off of him. My question is, if i am going with my read that i am good here, do i want to raise the turn or flat, running the risk of a bad card hitting the river, since i know he can be bluffing/semibluffing with hands with equity that might call a shove to draw (v. thin)

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $602.45
BB: $40.00
UTG: $177.00
MP: $198.85
Hero (CO): $197.05
BTN: $209.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain has been active and in a lot of pots in the 4 orbits i have been at this table. I have won two pots off him. one by 2 barreling a K turn and other with a cbet. His stats are ~40/22/2 over a few hands.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $7.00, BB folds

Flop: ($18) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $31.00</font>, Hero calls $18.00

Turn: ($80) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $40.00</font>
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | [x] I claim to HAS READ.

Flat and call most rivers; if you're gonna play a big pot with a marginal-ish hand here, at least let him hang himself.
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | [x] I claim to HAS READ.

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Flat and call most rivers; if you're gonna play a big pot with a marginal-ish hand here, at least let him hang himself.

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my problem was, A,K, club are all bad rivers for the most part(poss other straight cards), do you think this is few enough bad cards to flat? i guess thats my question in a nutshell. i was pretty torn at the table.
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:55 PM
rakes.a.beach rakes.a.beach is offline
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Default Re: 200NL | [x] I claim to HAS READ.

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Flat and call most rivers; if you're gonna play a big pot with a marginal-ish hand here, at least let him hang himself.

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my problem was, A,K, club are all bad rivers for the most part(poss other straight cards), do you think this is few enough bad cards to flat? i guess thats my question in a nutshell. i was pretty torn at the table.

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i'd hate a shove here cuz we're way behind if called.
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | [x] I claim to HAS READ.

i like flatting turn and probably calling alot of rivers.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | [x] I claim to HAS READ.

thanks guys.
One other serious question: What if i had ace high here, and felt strongly that it was good, you guys like a shove then, or still flatting?
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | [x] I claim to HAS READ.

call turn.

calling flop with ace high is a little too thin.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | [x] I claim to HAS READ.

A high = shove, because you can't stand to call the river. He can def bluff river with something like a whiffed straight draw that picks up a pair; your QT can pick that off, but A high can't.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: 200NL | [x] I claim to HAS READ.

With your read and turn action, you really have to close your eyes and call ANY river.
A high, i dunno prolly shove. I have called this down with A high and lost to 33 turned into a bluff..
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