2/4 Live - Nut draw

MMa7 · #1 08-09-2007, 08:15 PM

Minimum buyin 200 and max was 1k. Bought in for 200 and haven't played many hands, except one where I flopped top two and took down a 120 pot. Game was pretty much loose, they were limping and calling a ~5xBB raise with T2s. Even 72s was limped UTG and played for rolls when hit the two pair on the turn.

So I had around 260 behind me, he had me covered. (haven't played much hands and was there for an hour)

I was on the button with A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG2 limps, MP3 raises to 20, CO calls, I re-raise to 60, UTG2 calls, MP3 folds and CO calls.

Flop: 567 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot ~200)
They both check, what do we do here?

da_fume · #2 08-09-2007, 08:26 PM

You got yourself here by 3-betting PF. Just push but who knows if they'll fold.

MMa7 · #3 08-10-2007, 10:30 AM

I've actually bet 130, UTG2 folded and MP3 pushes, I instacall and he flips over J8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. And well yeh, he rivered the straight

CazicT · #4 08-10-2007, 12:21 PM

I would normally say push since you should be able to get some better hands to fold and if you hit your action would get killed because of the 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]'s so no implied odds.

But in very fishy games, where people won't fold better hands as much AND they may actually pay you off with a lesser diamond if you hit, I wonder if playing it slower would be better...

Javanewt · #5 08-10-2007, 01:08 PM

Having only a pot-sized bet left, I, too, would have pushed. I would not have expected many hands that had a piece or even an overpair to fold, though.

MMa7 · #6 08-10-2007, 03:00 PM

After the hand was done the guy who first raised said that he had AJ (and folded).
Anyway, my question is, would it be better to just call preflop?

friedace · #7 08-10-2007, 05:27 PM

Why are you buying in for 50bb? You should really be doing this if you have a good reason, because as you see, you commit yourself to pots and on the flop, I think the only possible move is push. If you had more, you could have more options.

Still, if checked to, I would be in any case because the having the nut draw on a 3 flush board doesn't have tons of implied odds, so semi-bluffing is a lot more attractive.

p.s. try not to be results oriented (it sounded like you were a bit). It doesn't matter that the guy hit the straight because you made the right move.