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Old 11-27-2007, 04:51 PM
00timh 00timh is offline
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Default Re: Never C-betting with air.

In a random situation, say you have KQs on the button and it is folded around to you. You make a standard 4x raise. One of the blinds calls with A10. Technically they are ahead. Flop is all rags or say it is JJ or something. If you have varied up your c-bets so that you don't do it automatically and have shown that you will lead out with a big hand that A10 goes into the muck just about every time. You do have to show that you are willing to c-bet without a piece though from time to time with AQ/AK or a small or medium pocket pair with overs. You don't want people climbing over top of each other to get at you but at the same time you don't want people to fold out to you because you only c-bet when you connect with the flop.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:50 PM
futuredoc85 futuredoc85 is offline
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Default Re: Never C-betting with air.

dont ever always do anything. dont c-bet every time you whiff. dont check every time you whiff. dont c-bet every time you flop a pair or draw.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:45 PM
ShipDaSherb ShipDaSherb is offline
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Default Re: Never C-betting with air.

You can use pokerstove to help you decide when to c-bet. For example if you put an opponent on a range of say 99-AA, AK, AQ, then you probably don't want to c-bet with a whiffed AK if there is a Q on the flop.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:32 AM
TWCReborn TWCReborn is offline
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Default Re: Never C-betting with air.

Continuation bets on flops that you do not connect on make sense because you showed strength preflop. If you fail to bet post-flop, you have abruptly changed your behavior. I think most good players bet, regardless of whether they hit or miss, 60-90% of the time they bet preflop. If they only hit a pair or better 33% of the time, then the extra 27%-57% comes from pocket pairs, ace high/king high bets, semi-bluffs, and bluffs. The percentage is probably even higher because people don't bet all the time when they connected on a flop. Trying to come up with some rule of when and exactly how much to c-bet in a vaccuum doesn't make sense. Good players take image, their opponent's aggressiveness, board texture, the number of players in the pot, the likelihood of someone slowplaying, opponent's card ranges etc. into consideration before betting out. In general, I think most players bet 60-90% of the total times they bet preflop on average.
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