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Old 11-28-2007, 11:16 AM
KCrow KCrow is offline
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Default TT - rivers top set on 3 to flush board against 16/9/oo

PF's meh I considered a squeeze, but UTG seamed pretty tight and I'd been fairly active.

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BB: $50
UTG: $57.55
MP: $42.75
CO: $50.85
BTN: $38.50
Hero (SB): $120.65

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, MP folds, CO calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($7.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $6, BTN folds

Turn: ($19.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, CO calls $14

River: ($47.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero..............

Is it pretty standard to shove all in - with this line what hands are going to call besides 66,22,44 and 99. I find it hard to believe a villain with these stats doesn't raise with any of these at some point. Would it be better to checked to induce a bluff or even do a weak bet to get called from random pairs.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: TT - rivers top set on 3 to flush board against 16/9/oo

shove here i think

he most likely has a FD but he might have some pair like JJ+
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: TT - rivers top set on 3 to flush board against 16/9/oo

I probably bet smaller on the turn, like $10-$11. On the river, I don't hate betting about $15 hoping to get value from marginal hands, or even going for a river c/r.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: TT - rivers top set on 3 to flush board against 16/9/oo

pushy pushy
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: TT - rivers top set on 3 to flush board against 16/9/oo

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I don't necessarily disagree with this but can you explain your thinking behind it. The villain has an aggression factor of infinite and has called big bets on the flop and turn. If he has a flush draw he's obviously not paying out on the river. He'll pay out with a set all day but does he not raise these for value and protection?
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: TT - rivers top set on 3 to flush board against 16/9/oo

If he's calling 2 times with a made flush he's a retard so pay him off
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: TT - rivers top set on 3 to flush board against 16/9/oo

I dont really think he has a set here that often either, but he could have something like an overpair with one club or a couple of overs with the ace of clubs. If you check the river to him, you miss value because he'll check behind the overpairs a lot instead of calling your bet. A normal villain doesnt bluff enough with a busted draw to make checking better than betting.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: TT - rivers top set on 3 to flush board against 16/9/oo

Put him all in on this river, his calling range is much larger than his betting range on the river, and I can't really see him bluffing very often. He'll check behind many hands (overpairs mostly) that he'll often call a river bet with.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: TT - rivers top set on 3 to flush board against 16/9/oo

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I don't necessarily disagree with this but can you explain your thinking behind it. The villain has an aggression factor of infinite and has called big bets on the flop and turn. If he has a flush draw he's obviously not paying out on the river. He'll pay out with a set all day but does he not raise these for value and protection?

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Few reasons, hero bet out two times with pocket T, at the river he improves his hand, if you're not planning on committing your stack to this flop you should fold at the flop, not at the river. Villain's behavior is also weird, he's just flatcalling with flush possibility on the flop, he is possibly trapping, but on a board like this a big draw is very possible.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: TT - rivers top set on 3 to flush board against 16/9/oo

If you are planning on folding - then fold the turn.

pushing here is teh standard - stack his AA(with a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]) expect him to fold most overpairs lots of the time tho.

If he went an flopped the joint we got coolered.

We just rivered his OP's and sets - sets are calling all day - OP's quite often he has the flush here like 1 time in 100.
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