Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Micro Stakes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-10-2007, 09:53 PM
bige321786 bige321786 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 82
Default Stack off with bottom set, right?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($13.60)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($143.80)</font>
<font color="#C00000">HERO ($69)</font>
MP ($54.35)
CO ($102.75)
Button ($48.95)

Preflop: HERO is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">HERO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">HERO bets $4.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $12.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">HERO raises to $71.25 (All-In)</font>, Button folds, BB calls $7.

Turn: ($152.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($152.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $152.75
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-10-2007, 10:00 PM
Arcturus Arcturus is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Nit pickin\' my game
Posts: 357
Default Re: Stack off with bottom set, right?

All day, nice hand.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-10-2007, 10:08 PM
bige321786 bige321786 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 82
Default Re: Stack off with bottom set, right?

I've always agreed; if I flop a set, money in on the flop is fine no matter what the outcme.
I just felt that if there was ever a time to fold a set on the flop, this would be it. Am I crazy? Do we expect villain to turn over 9T, JJ+, T7, AT (no way) and an 8 often enough?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-10-2007, 10:21 PM
Schiester Schiester is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 298
Default Re: Stack off with bottom set, right?

I'm with you. My first thought is 'nice hand'!

Just begs the question, what hands is he 3beting the flop with that he's not 3betting pf with?

Overpairs are pretty well out of his arsenal if he's not slowplaying pf. He's not doing this w 88, 22-66, AT+. He hasn't hit 2p on this board either (except maybe 9Ts).

...This hand is pretty interesting. Looks kinda like you're beat by whatever range he has left.

I'm assuming he's reasonable and you've got some stats on him given his stack is almost 300BB.

Has he been reraising pf at all... could he play overpairs this way?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-10-2007, 10:23 PM
bsball8806 bsball8806 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: poker break till finals
Posts: 738
Default Re: Stack off with bottom set, right?

i really don't see how we can call here. I don't put BB on a straight, I put him on a higher set. I don't remember who it was, but a famous poker player said that "he could fold bottom set to middle/top set, but he couldn't justify ever folding middle set." I think, considering the BB checked, you bet, the button raised, and the BB re raised, you HAVE to give him credit at the very least, for 99. And I don't think honestly there's anything else he could have here, other than 10 10 or maybe 8J. No way a pair/straight draw or 2pr does this here.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-10-2007, 10:27 PM
GSykes GSykes is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Blogging
Posts: 3,049
Default Re: Stack off with bottom set, right?

it sucks when top 2 sucks out doesn't it
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-10-2007, 10:27 PM
Schiester Schiester is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 298
Default Re: Stack off with bottom set, right?

Very interesting.

I think his pf action + aggro factors would be interesting.

Would you mind posting these?

Cheers.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-10-2007, 10:30 PM
bsball8806 bsball8806 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: poker break till finals
Posts: 738
Default Re: Stack off with bottom set, right?

[ QUOTE ]
it sucks when top 2 sucks out doesn't it

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL

I saw the 10 on the river, and thought the exact same thing.
Funny though...i gave him contradictory advice
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-10-2007, 10:35 PM
ICMoney ICMoney is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Watching Vids > Playing
Posts: 1,720
Default Re: Stack off with bottom set, right?

I stack on flop 100%, but I might not shove $60 over his $8 raise.

Might raise to $36 and shove any turn.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-10-2007, 10:37 PM
bige321786 bige321786 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 82
Default Re: Stack off with bottom set, right?

[ QUOTE ]
it sucks when top 2 sucks out doesn't it

[/ QUOTE ]
He did not have 9T. I filled up and lost.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.