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Old 11-29-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked

I have villain at 13.5/4.6/3.4 over 259 hands.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 ($13.65)
MP3 ($47.75)
CO ($41.25)
Button ($35.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($95.40)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB ($104.30)</font>
UTG ($49.35)
UTG+1 ($55.45)
MP1 ($29.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $5</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $3.25.

Turn: ($11.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $7.5</font>, Hero calls $7.50.

River: ($26.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10.

My main question is on the flop. Should I be 3betting here? If so, to how much? Is folding an option? As played, what do you think? Personally, I'm not happy with my line, but at the time I was totally lost. After much thought, I'm still lost. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked

Don't overbet flop. As played, dump it on river probably.

Flop three-bet to $16 is okay. I'd shut down on that turn-card if called though. On a blank, idk, I guess commit but it's really gonna suck if he flips pocket 8s.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked

On that drawy board, I 3bet the flop. Folding the flop is bad.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked

you donīt beat an awfull lot on this river. i donīt like your line either.

tho as played i think turn is key. vs this opponent whe could consider bet folding turn right? when call whe try to check it down and check/fold river right?

i like bet fold turn here.

on river whe dont beat much other then AK and possible overplayed QQ/jj
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked

I just hit the pot button b/c I was 10-tabling, hence the overbet.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked

On the river I'm looking at ~3.6:1 on a call, still fold?
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked

CO posted and checked when it folded to him. I guess it is possible this villian just checked two eights there, but I'd be very surprised. (Wonder what his steal rate is)

Given that, I probably 3-bet the flop here. He has Kx spades often enough or K8/T8 to justify that raise.
Turn card is obviously not a great one--I almost want to lead 2/3-3/4 pot to see how he reacts, especially if you are check-calling such an amount.

His river bet is odd, but it could easily be the flush semi-scared of the paired card...but not wanting a free SD since you checked.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked

Villain's attempt to steal blinds is 50% (3/6).
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Old 11-29-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked

I'm looking to get it in on this flop and you got handcuffed as a result of just calling his raise here. You don't beat anything on the river so unless you think he is on total air you have to fold.
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Old 11-29-2007, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - KT flops top two deepstacked

Reraise flop as stated before. River call is def. bad. His raising range on the flop has to be good draws/8T/KT/K8/TT/88/AK. All draws hit, you chop with one hand, he checks the river with one of those, and two rivered you.
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