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Old 11-26-2007, 02:31 AM
rakemeplz rakemeplz is offline
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haha wow best custom title in a longgg time

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not even, that custom title kinda sucks. Whoever made that lacks in the creativity and funny department, cuz it could be soooo much better.

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[censored] you man, I thought long and hard about that before pming gildwulf.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:30 AM
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terrific
just terrific.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:36 AM
LifeTilt LifeTilt is offline
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yoo post the scoreboard somebody, some of us dont have tv!

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you have the internet right?

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This needed to be quoted again. Really Michael Vick?
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:39 AM
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I don't care what the odds say you guys are all clowns.

The patriots lose this game at most 1% of the time.

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I'll bet up to $30k at 95-1

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Kevin Malone: When someone gives you odds like 10,000 to 1, you take it. If John Mellencamp ever wins an Oscar, I'm gonna be a very rich dude.

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I thought of the same thing right when I started reading this thread, lol.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:10 PM
TT_fold TT_fold is offline
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Hello all...

I realllllly should be studying for a quiz at 2 pm right now but I am actually eager to share my side of this story.

Not that anyone at 2+2 would know me, but yes, I am the friend that placed this bet with stealthmunk.

Here's a little background: I'm 20 years old, as stealthmunk said my roll is ~50k, and while I certainly am not a sharp, I'm far from a square (cough cough). I read the Sports Betting forums here, I follow lines/betting trends, and I would never say something as square-ish as "I don't care what the odds say." Generally I'm willing to book large bets on ANY team in any sport if the price I'm getting is significantly better than what Pinny/Tradesports are offering.

I was driving back to school last night and was supposed to drop by stealthmunk's place to give him $2k in cash that I owed him, which was like a 10 mile detour. So when I got to his apartment I treated myself to some of his alcohol and I asked him to put the Pats game on. It's not as if I put the game on with the intention of "hustling" him on some bet... but we quickly got to chatting about the Pats being the biggest favorites since 1980 yadda yadda and then stealthmunk goes, "I'll bet you ONE HUNDRED to one the Patriots cover."

All of a sudden I got excited since at that point the Eagles were driving, down 14-7, in the 2nd quarter, and stealthmunk is a massive degen who would actually bet his whole roll on something like this. I was probably being a massive tellbox at this point with my overeagerness to take this bet, but you'll have to forgive me since I felt that if I put down $1k vs $100k that I'd be making like $5k in Sklansky bucks.

Call ME a square, but I figured that since the Eagles came INTO the game as like 25.5 pt dogs and +2800 on the ML, that they were actually running above expectation at this point in the 2nd quarter. If we assume the fair line on the game is 25.5 pts, then one would expect the Pats to be up 10 or so at this point. So I figured fair ML was like +2000 at this point in the game. We talked it down to 35-1 and booked it.

Fast forward to early 4th quarter... OMG EAGLES UP 28-24 AND DRIVING. stealthmunk and I have been discussing buyouts the entire 2nd half but he keeps giving me insulting offers like $350 to cut the stakes of the bet in half. Finally I tell him that if the Eagles go 3 and out on the current drive I'll take a $9500 buyout. He offers $7k and now we're talking. At this point I'm under the impression that the broken La-Z-Boy I'm sitting in is worth $2500 new, so I value it at around $1k. We eventually agree on $7600 and the chair.

Of course I go on life tilt when I see that Tradesports has the Pats at like 59 buy 66 sell but keep in mind I had like 30 seconds to decide and I wasn't allowed to go on the Internet. I should have snuck to the bathroom and pulled up Tradesports on my Iphone but I was a little too drunk to realize this was an option. Again, call me a square but my logic was that the Pats would have the ball, down 4, with like 12 minutes left. I certainly didn't take the buyout to try to reduce variance... I'm not dumb enough to place a bet in the first place if the stakes are so high that I'll be forced to take a -EV hedge. But anyways... figure this is an NBA game. If the 1996 Bulls are at home facing some .500 team down 1 possession early 4th quarter, wouldn't they be 75% or so to win? Yeah I know basketball football yadda yadda but again I had like 30 seconds and was drunk. I honestly thought neither of us was getting the best of this buyout but w/e... ship the $5k (I think) that I was up on the night.

Yeah I know tl;dr DEAL WITH IT BATCHES no cliffnotes here.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:12 PM
TT_fold TT_fold is offline
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Oh almost left this out...

Stealthmunk really WOULD have gone on massive life tilt if he lost so the neutral EV hedge potentially saved his bankroll/life.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:15 PM
Lori Lori is offline
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From your point of view,I suspect the hedge wasn't actually terrible because the money significantly increased your bankroll. You might want to run it through Kelly before you're too harsh on yourself.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:29 PM
Andynan Andynan is offline
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I had a friend who bet 3k on the pats to win 300. He had the balls to stay in the bet and hedged almost at the end to win 190 each way. The 190 hardly cover all the suffering he went through lol. Betfairaments
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:31 PM
danspartan danspartan is offline
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You showed up 2K in the hole and left without paying that plus 5K? Don't lose any sleep.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:41 PM
NeedATimeMachine NeedATimeMachine is offline
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obv pats win 99/100 -------> moral of the story: don't second guess yourself, always go with your gut feeling

happy bday stealth!
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