200nl 6max DEEP- Raised flop NutFLushDraw facing 4 bet push!

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It's a 3bet not a 4bet.

And fold.

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Thanks for the correction. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Please elaborate on "and fold". Again.. simple statements such as this are not particularly helpful.

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I don't mind raising at all. people saying flat call this deep are being results oriented. It's a clear fold though when villain shoves because we simply do not have enough equity to call.

also people saying villains reaction to our raise is polarized towards folding/shoving? Where did this come from.

this guy is a huge station. his most likely action is CALL.

OP, raise/fold was the right play and sometimes you have to make big folds. this is one of those times.

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also people saying villains reaction to our raise is polarized towards folding/shoving? Where did this come from.

this guy is a huge station. his most likely action is CALL.

OP, raise/fold was the right play and sometimes you have to make big folds. this is one of those times.

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youre not making sense though... if villain is a station, and his most likely play is to CALL a rasie, then why the are we raising in the first place? we only have A-high...

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also people saying villains reaction to our raise is polarized towards folding/shoving? Where did this come from.

this guy is a huge station. his most likely action is CALL.

OP, raise/fold was the right play and sometimes you have to make big folds. this is one of those times.

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youre not making sense though... if villain is a station, and his most likely play is to CALL a rasie, then why the are we raising in the first place? we only have A-high...

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Is this a joke?

We would love for him to just call here as we can play our hand from here on out for huge EV with position against a calling station.

soda

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if hes a calliong sation we still have huge implied odds by just calling. most of the value in raising draws is in fold equity, no?
and like has been mentioned several times it really sucks to raise the NFD and then have to fold/not know what to do