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Old 09-29-2007, 03:05 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default Another annoying preflop spot with AQo

Live full 10/20.

UTG+1 raises. He looks like he might be steaming from the previous hand where his AK TPTK got cracked. 3 loose players cold call. I'm in the CO with AQo. I look left and notice that the button and SB are folding. BB will likely call one.

i really dont know what to do! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 09-29-2007, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Another annoying preflop spot with AQo

Fold...Not only do steaming players sometimes get dealt good starting hands, but with all of these coldcallers there is a good chance that at least a couple of aces or queens will be in others' hands.
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Old 09-29-2007, 03:30 PM
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Fold...Not only do steaming players sometimes get dealt good starting hands, but with all of these coldcallers there is a good chance that at least a couple of aces or queens will be in others' hands.

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Chesspain,

Live 10/20 games play LOOOOOOOOSE, so there is no reason to give the field credit for having anything.

OP, if you actually trust your read then call and see what happens on the flop. No point in 3 betting. You already have position apparently, and there's no use in knocking out the BB, because this only helps you if you improve, and he improves also to a have that beats you. That's not too likely.
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:00 PM
DeucesNeverLoses DeucesNeverLoses is offline
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Default Re: Another annoying preflop spot with AQo

Um standard call pre? 3 betting in here is spewy I think, unless suited, then I 3b 60%ish pre.
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Old 09-29-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Another annoying preflop spot with AQo

At these loose (probalby passive?) tables I'd call with AQo here in position. the only problem is that if he is sure to lead out, most of the limpers will call and you can't thin the field on the flop with a raise.
I agree with the other post that folding is probably a good option too.
3 betting is spewage

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Old 09-29-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Another annoying preflop spot with AQo

3bet for value.
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Old 09-30-2007, 02:16 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: Another annoying preflop spot with AQo

It's close between calling and raising. If you think the raiser may be a little weak than 3betting for value is good.
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Old 09-30-2007, 03:59 AM
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IMO it's close between all 3 options but without previous history calling is best. Snowball explained nicely why folding BB isn't really worth it and not 3betting makes the flop play better for you when you hit a pair (and when you don't hit a pair your hand is usually fair to terrible anyway). Possibly having one of the coldcallers dominated is not reason to fold. He "may be" tilting because he had one hand cracked is not conclusive enough for a 3bet.
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:36 AM
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Yeah, this is straight from Feeney.
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Old 09-30-2007, 09:29 AM
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OP, if you actually trust your read then call and see what happens on the flop.

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Before coldcalling here, I would want more of a read on the raiser than my perception that "he may be steaming."
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