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Old 11-29-2007, 05:25 PM
Pocketbear Pocketbear is offline
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Default ($24) Q9 as TP from BB minraised by BTN

The villain is 21/7, openlimped from BTN for the first time, I guess.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t895
UTG+1: t3060
MP1: t1995
CO: t1595
Button: t1565
Hero: t1390
BB: t3000

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, Button calls t60 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t90)</font>, Hero calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t180, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t120</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to t240</font>, Hero folds.

Like it or not? Is check/folding the flop on such a drawy board weak?
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: ($24) Q9 as TP from BB minraised by BTN

Looks good. He might be stealing, but you've got few outs to improve, and a lot of cards make it hard for you to call any further bets. If he's minraising you here, I don't think you're getting a cheap showdown. Definitely a fold.

Also, I do like the bet. I think you have to at least take a shot with TP3K here.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: ($24) Q9 as TP from BB minraised by BTN

I think c/f is ok. There's so many danger cards to come on the turn/river and it's hard to know if you're ahead... I don't hate b/f line but most turns you'll probably have to check and give up the pot to further bets.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:51 AM
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Default Re: ($24) Q9 as TP from BB minraised by BTN

I like it. Betting for protection is good v 2 opponent but your hand can not handle any pressure.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:12 AM
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Default Re: ($24) Q9 as TP from BB minraised by BTN

Very s tandard, NH ... 180 in the middle is enough to take a shot at it with what will often be the best h and here
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: ($24) Q9 as TP from BB minraised by BTN

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I like it. Betting for protection is good v 2 opponent but your hand can not handle any pressure.

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Old 11-30-2007, 06:26 PM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: ($24) Q9 as TP from BB minraised by BTN

I know this is super weak, especially against a guy who limped his button, but I usually just fold preflop. Even though you have a decent suited hand I think there are substantial rio with these crap broadway hands, in particular because you are oop, and it's just incredibly rare to make a hand that you would want to stack off with. I used to always play these hands and I think it was a leak.
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