NL100. I 3-bet KK and get AI rr'd. Is this ever not aces?

[flytrap]

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He could easily have AK. Folding would be awful.

Lock plz.

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Care to post some hands from your pokertracker where this situation, against an opponent with those stats came up, and they had AK? Or maybe the percentage of times you got all in for 100bbs PF with KK against an opponent with stats like this, and they didn't have AA?
Basically, you guys are saying always go broke with KK against tight players? Keep in mind, I have 2 of the kings, so that somewhat diminishes the AK chances.

[Fiasco]

Well, given your hand there are 6 combos of AA, 6 combos of QQ, and 8 combos of AK.

[Fiasco]

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fiasco plz tell me you won that hand

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Villain had AA LDO.

[bottomset]

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fiasco plz tell me you won that hand

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Villain had AA LDO.

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man you suck at poker

[Mr_Donktastic]

Don't ever fold KK in a steal/resteal situation. Or QQ. Or AK.

[Chargers In 07]

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Don't ever fold KK in a steal/resteal situation. Or QQ. Or AK.

[/ QUOTE ]yeah really

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($46.75)
Button ($50)
SB ($44.45)
Hero ($49.75)
UTG ($60.35)
UTG+1 ($36.30)
MP1 ($29.25)
MP2 ($50)
MP3 ($46.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($30.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $34.75</font>, CO calls $1.75 (All-In).

Turn: ($93.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($93.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $93.75

Results below:
Hero has Ks Kd (two pair, kings and tens).
CO has Ac As (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: CO wins $93.75. Hero wins $3.

zomg he could've been stealing. 4bet is always AA/KK from a nit.

[Mr_Donktastic]

What about when an 18/8 player UTG 4 bets?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $109.00
BB: $236.85
UTG: $395.90
UTG+1: $24.85
MP1: $218.10
MP2: $203.55
MP3: $284.00
Hero (CO): $197.00
BTN: $111.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, UTG+1 calls $7.00, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $31.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $103.00</font>, UTG+1 calls all-in for $17.85, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $197.00</font>, UTG calls $94.00

Flop: ($421.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Turn: ($421.85) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($421.85) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $421.85 ($3 Rake)

UTG+1 had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Sixes and Twos) and LOST (-$24.85)
UTG had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Sixes) and LOST (-$197.00)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Sixes) and WON (+$221.85)

Granted if you guys have real nitty images you will have to fold more than I do.

[Chargers In 07]

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Granted if you guys have real nitty images you will have to fold more than I do.

[/ QUOTE ]I think people don't factor this in enough. But I'm not sure it matters where I play so w/e. Maybe at the $100 people pay attention.

[Fiasco]

Im starting to come around on this. I think that if villains stats are in line, then folding pf COULD be correct. What was his AF? If it was less than 2 then I think you can officially sign me up for a fold.

BTW, looks like Ive gotten it all in pf 4 times with KK. Once against QQ, once against AK, and twice against AA. All of the times that I won I had very few hands against my opponent.

[CalledDownLight]

This is appropriate once again. Its my new automated reesponse. wtf is up with these threads? This definitely deserves a ban more than whatever pete said in the shortstacking thread.

Also, if you want to fold then go ahead and fold it, just don't make a [censored] thread about it. You should know if its a good fold or not pretty much right away. I folded KK preflop one time and I happened to have a friend sweating me at the time. It was to a 3bet, not even a 4bet and I know for a fact that he had aces (since it was pumuckel and he limped UTG then RR to $48 after I raised to $10 in MP). I didn't even think about it and showed a friend the hh and he agreed that it was AA like 90% of the time.