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Old 06-11-2007, 07:19 AM
Splossy Splossy is offline
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Default Virgin Casino - dumb noobie bonus question

This place says it will give me a 100% match bonus to £50. It says

"Once you have deposited, we will match the amount up to £50 in bonus funds. These funds are non-withdrawable. To convert the bonus into cash customers must stake an amount equal to ten (10) times their initial deposit. The bonus is converted in full when 100% of the Wagering Requirements are met."
"Bets on Multiplier, Baccarat, Craps, Ten Play Poker, Ten Play Bonus (Video Poker) all variations of Roulette and all variations of Blackjack do not count towards the total stake."

So I'm thinking roulette. I'd need to wager £500 on roulette. So if I make 500 £1 bets am I likely to come out on top or is it really not worth it. Would making 250 £2 bets be much different?

Basically I'm a casino bonus newbie based in the UK. I'm looking top up my poker roll with a bit of easy money. Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks.
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:33 AM
sonneti sonneti is offline
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Default Re: Virgin Casino - dumb noobie bonus question

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"Bets on Multiplier, Baccarat, Craps, Ten Play Poker, Ten Play Bonus (Video Poker) all variations of Roulette and all variations of Blackjack do not count towards the total stake."

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So I'm thinking roulette.

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"Bets on Multiplier, Baccarat, Craps, Ten Play Poker, Ten Play Bonus (Video Poker) all variations of Roulette and all variations of Blackjack do not count towards the total stake."

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So I'm thinking roulette.

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"Bets on Multiplier, Baccarat, Craps, Ten Play Poker, Ten Play Bonus (Video Poker) all variations of Roulette and all variations of Blackjack do not count towards the total stake."

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So I'm thinking roulette.

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"Bets on Multiplier, Baccarat, Craps, Ten Play Poker, Ten Play Bonus (Video Poker) all variations of Roulette and all variations of Blackjack do not count towards the total stake."

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So I'm thinking roulette.

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"Bets on Multiplier, Baccarat, Craps, Ten Play Poker, Ten Play Bonus (Video Poker) all variations of Roulette and all variations of Blackjack do not count towards the total stake."

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So I'm thinking roulette.

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"Bets on Multiplier, Baccarat, Craps, Ten Play Poker, Ten Play Bonus (Video Poker) all variations of Roulette and all variations of Blackjack do not count towards the total stake."

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So I'm thinking roulette.

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haha but seriously some websites that might help you: beatingbonuses, casinobonuspages & wizardofodds.com
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:44 AM
Splossy Splossy is offline
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Default Re: Virgin Casino - dumb noobie bonus question

I knew it was a dumb question but not in that way - doh!
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Old 06-11-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Virgin Casino - dumb noobie bonus question

Roulette cannot be played. Play 4-play Jacks or Better video poker.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: Virgin Casino - dumb noobie bonus question

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Roulette cannot be played. Play 4-play Jacks or Better video poker.

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The payout table is low on the 4x job. I can't remember what it used to be but I think they may have downgraded it. For a 10x bonus it will still be EV but I think for the 100% reloads at 35x bonus it is tight. At 35x I make it 3% HA is the breakeven and I think the JOB payouit may be around that number. Can someone check - I'm no good at doing these sums.
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Virgin Casino - dumb noobie bonus question

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This place says it will give me a 100% match bonus to £50. It says

"Once you have deposited, we will match the amount up to £50 in bonus funds. These funds are non-withdrawable. To convert the bonus into cash customers must stake an amount equal to ten (10) times their initial deposit. The bonus is converted in full when 100% of the Wagering Requirements are met."
"Bets on Multiplier, Baccarat, Craps, Ten Play Poker, Ten Play Bonus (Video Poker) all variations of Roulette and all variations of Blackjack do not count towards the total stake."

So I'm thinking roulette. I'd need to wager £500 on roulette. So if I make 500 £1 bets am I likely to come out on top or is it really not worth it. Would making 250 £2 bets be much different?

Basically I'm a casino bonus newbie based in the UK. I'm looking top up my poker roll with a bit of easy money. Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks.

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First of all, make sure you sign up through a referal cashback link... when I first opened an account here I signed up through quidco.com and got £50 cashback (this cashback has nothing to do with the bonus, it is simply a nice sum that is given to you simply for having opened an account at the casino).

I don't think quidco still offer it, but you can check around. If you are really stuck trying to find a cashback website, sign up through their 'refer a friend' offer instead. You get £25 extra that way (but its a £25 bonus rather than a 'hassle-free' cashback).

Okay, about the £50 sign up bonus. I would recommend that you play one of the following: Three Card Poker (£39.95 +ev), Texas Holdem Bonus (£47.35 +ev), Lucky Draw Jacks or Better 4play (£47.70 +ev) or Texas Holdem Shootout (£50 +ev). My poison of choice would be Texas Holdem Bonus... video poker has way too much variance for my liking.

Also, make sure that you also take advantage of their regular weekly/monthly reloads as well (they currently have their £50 weekly reload on today and tommorrow).
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Old 06-11-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: Virgin Casino - dumb noobie bonus question

Their reloads suck? Have to wager deposit 35x before bonus is credit to account.
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: Virgin Casino - dumb noobie bonus question

Ray,
U sure that Hold'em Bonus has that low HA? Could you point me towards some calculations showing this (or a good place to describe optimal strategy)?
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Old 06-12-2007, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: Virgin Casino - dumb noobie bonus question

wizardofodds.com
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:18 AM
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Default Re: Virgin Casino - dumb noobie bonus question

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Their reloads suck? Have to wager deposit 35x before bonus is credit to account.

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Suck... how? In terms of return? In terms of time/effort?

£40 +ev return out of every £50 weekly reload bonus, doesn't suck... at least not to me.

Plus, when betting just a mere £1 ($2) on the ante (Texas Holdem Bonus) their weekly reload bonuses clear at a rate of approx £40 ($80) +ev per hour.

Personally, I bet a larger amount on the ante bet... this increases my variance; but it also increases my hourly return.

Plus there are other ways to increase your hourly return (and lower your effort expended). Just sit down and think it about...
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