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11-28-2007, 03:33 PM
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Re: Why Im no longer an ACist
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Why? What separates the widely held value judgment of "children need a minimal amount of skills to have a chance to succeed" from "people own their own labor", and why should I put more weight on one than the other? [/ QUOTE ] Whats the point of having this child succeed when they aren't going to own their own labour anyway? 
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11-28-2007, 04:14 PM
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Re: Why Im no longer an ACist
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[ QUOTE ] Why? What separates the widely held value judgment of "children need a minimal amount of skills to have a chance to succeed" from "people own their own labor", and why should I put more weight on one than the other? [/ QUOTE ] Whats the point of having this child succeed when they aren't going to own their own labour anyway? [/ QUOTE ] Okay, Ian. And since you pay taxes and don't truly own your own labor, you should kill yourself. After all, what's the point?
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11-28-2007, 06:03 PM
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Re: Why Im no longer an ACist
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why? What separates the widely held value judgment of "children need a minimal amount of skills to have a chance to succeed" from "people own their own labor", and why should I put more weight on one than the other? [/ QUOTE ] Whats the point of having this child succeed when they aren't going to own their own labour anyway? [/ QUOTE ] Okay, Ian. And since you pay taxes and don't truly own your own labor, you should kill yourself. After all, what's the point? [/ QUOTE ] lol, what? I never said I dont own my own labour. Im just trying to understand how someone can say that a child has a right to an education to increase the fruits of his labour that he wont own.
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11-28-2007, 06:31 PM
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Re: Why Im no longer an ACist
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why? What separates the widely held value judgment of "children need a minimal amount of skills to have a chance to succeed" from "people own their own labor", and why should I put more weight on one than the other? [/ QUOTE ] Whats the point of having this child succeed when they aren't going to own their own labour anyway? [/ QUOTE ] Okay, Ian. And since you pay taxes and don't truly own your own labor, you should kill yourself. After all, what's the point? [/ QUOTE ] lol, what? I never said I dont own my own labour. Im just trying to understand how someone can say that a child has a right to an education to increase the fruits of his labour that he wont own. [/ QUOTE ] You wrote: "Whats the point of having this child succeed when they aren't going to own their own labour anyway?" and now you are again writing that children won't own *any* of the fruits of their labor. The fact is you don't own all your own labor if you pay taxes. So by drawing a black and white line around the "fruits of your labor" you have just made a case for giving up on your own life. But wait, maybe there is a shade of gray after all, eh? Maybe people can value helping children succeed without advocating that ALL your property be stripped from you? No that can't be. Because we're only allowed to spew absolutist dogma when it comes to property rights --all or nothing, baby. I guess the "death star objection" defense only applies in defending absolute property rights.
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