I has a flush on flop, but feel that something is not kosher

[sasha]

No reads on villains, but have a feeling utg miniraiser is not the best.

ullTiltPoker Game #4118498732: Table Artesia (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:18:20 ET - 2007/11/09
Seat 1: bangoo ($456.10)
Seat 2: thesheriff4 ($722.10)
Seat 3: ericontilt ($627.65)
Seat 4: daeguchoi ($371.90)
Seat 5: LzyScmbg ($400)
Seat 6: wuleq ($394)
thesheriff4 posts the small blind of $2
ericontilt posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ericontilt [2d 7d]
daeguchoi raises to $8
LzyScmbg folds
wuleq calls $8
bangoo folds
thesheriff4 calls $6
ericontilt calls $4
*** FLOP *** [Kd Jd 8d]
thesheriff4 checks
ericontilt checks
daeguchoi checks
wuleq bets $22
thesheriff4 folds
ericontilt has 15 seconds left to act
ericontilt calls $22
daeguchoi has 15 seconds left to act
daeguchoi raises to $84
wuleq calls $62
ericontilt ?

[n2p]

get it in.

[Praetor]

lead

[JFsports]

I'd rather lead out, as played I get it in

[JackAll]

lol @ preflop
lol @ flop

nh

[rand]

1. so your eric
2. this is a great hand
3. a lead is easy to play idk if its more +EV
4. ...sick spot: im not even gonna consider the openers range i think he is almost irrelevant

i would say wuleq smooths 88, AdXd (QdTd,Tx,Xd) (KxQd) (KJo) and that he shoves all flushes T-high or below

idk...i gave them all pretty liberal ranges, your equity is actually pretty good bc alot of hands that either of them play like this contain each others outs:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

361,200 games 0.026 secs 13,892,307 games/sec

Board: Kd Jd 8d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.335% 40.29% 00.05% 145524 165.00 { 7d2d }
Hand 1: 32.292% 32.22% 00.07% 116394 246.00 { 88, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, KJs, QdTd, Td9d, KcQd, KhQd, KsQd, KJo, QdTc, QdTh, QdTs }
Hand 2: 27.373% 27.30% 00.07% 98625 246.00 { KK+, JJ, 88, AdQd, AdTd, JdTd, AcKd, AdKc, AdKh, AdKs }

if you got some timing tell on wuleq to narrow his range then maybe you can consider letting this go but i would prolly shove and expect a call from UTG and hope you get a fold from wuleq

[FireStorm]

"Getting it in" here is probably the worst thing I've ever heard during the course of my life. This really has to be joke advice. You would either be getting it in drawing dead, or fighting off a set. How great shape can we possibly be in on the flop? Do you really think unknowns are showing up with total garbage very often given this flop action?

As far as the hand was played, it should also be noted that your line isn't great. C/C'ing the flop isn't good.

[rand]

[ QUOTE ]
"Getting it in" here is probably the worst thing I've ever heard during the course of my life. This really has to be joke advice. You would either be getting it in drawing dead, or fighting off a set. How great shape can we possibly be in on the flop? Do you really think unknowns are showing up with total garbage very often given this flop action?

As far as the hand was played, it should also be noted that your line isn't great. C/C'ing the flop isn't good.

[/ QUOTE ]

you are worried about UTG or or wuleq or ??
yes i think UTG is a moron who shows up with lots of [censored] here, idk about wuleq hes not a bad reg so if he comes along theni thnk we are [censored]...

but what do you recomend then? FOLD ??

[sapol]

1) You already know this but clearly don't understand it. FOLD PRE-FLOP !!!!!

2) I'd like to give you my opinion on flop but I really don't know. If this happened to me I would've pushed but I'm not totally sure if that's correct

[sasha]

I"m not gonna fold preflop getting almost 7-1 wth full stack moron raising utg.
as far as flop goes I got it in, they both had flushes, mine was the worst.